From: Mark Richards <marich712000(a)yahoo.com>
Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 20:29:09 -0700 (PDT)
To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] On trolls, usenet and Wikipedia
Well, I'm not advocating for the rights to troll (I
don't think vandalism has anything to do with this,
since its already covered) - I'm just saying that the
current way of dealing with trolling isn't very
effective.
Ignoring things that are not vandalism or malicious
article edits might be better than providing fertile
ground for more trolling. The username issue is the
biggest one of concern to me, I think that we're
setting ourselves up for a whole new round of trolling
over 'if admins can ban users with 'troll' in their
name, what other names can I get away with'. By just
ignoring these usernames (unless they are attacks on
users, genuinely offensive etc) this game would not
start.
Mark
--- Rick <giantsrick13(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Unfortunately, there are far too many people on
Wikipedia (most of whom do little actual editing of
articles) who are more concerned about giving the
trolls the right to troll and vandalize, and will
attack and try to get banned those of us actually
out to make an Encyclopedia instead of a
trollopedia.
RickK
Mark Richards <marich712000(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Hang on a second, I thought vandals were easy to
deal
with? Revert, ban if necessary, done. The problem is
users who have not vandalised anything, but seek to
engage in endlessly convoluted arguments with anyone
who will play. Unfortunately, if you play, you have
lost already.
If the troll vandalises, ban him immediately. If
not,
don't feed him.
Mark
--- Christopher Mahan wrote:
On Usenet or any of many online forums, trolls
can
be ignored (not
fed) and they mostly disappear. On wikipedia, they
escalate their
vandalism, learning ever-sneakier ways of damaging
articles that
people have spend countless hours of their
precious
time crafting.
Ignoring a troll on wikipedia is the worst thing
you
could possibly
do, since it will bite you in the proverbial bum.
=====
Christopher Mahan
chris_mahan(a)yahoo.com
818.943.1850 cell
http://www.christophermahan.com/
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