Well, I don't know, I havn't been following the
details, my frustration is just over the level of time
and energy that is put into this.
I thought that there were moves afoot to ban people
simply for having 'troll' in their username, but
honestly couldn't care less one way or another, the
whole discussion (on the talk etc pages) just seems to
me to be troll food.
Sorry to go on about this, I'm just kind of fed up of
the whole thing, but then, I guess we all are.
Mark
--- Jimmy Wales <jwales(a)bomis.com> wrote:
To my knowledge, admins are not banning people
merely for having
the name 'troll'. J. R. R. Trollkien, despite being
a pain in the
neck, has been around for a few weeks now, right?
--Jimbo
Mark Richards wrote:
Well, I'm not advocating for the rights to
troll
(I
don't think vandalism has anything to do with
this,
since its already covered) - I'm just saying
that
the
current way of dealing with trolling isn't
very
effective.
Ignoring things that are not vandalism or
malicious
article edits might be better than providing
fertile
ground for more trolling. The username issue is
the
biggest one of concern to me, I think that
we're
setting ourselves up for a whole new round of
trolling
over 'if admins can ban users with
'troll' in
their
name, what other names can I get away with'.
By
just
ignoring these usernames (unless they are attacks
on
users, genuinely offensive etc) this game would
not
start.
Mark
--- Rick <giantsrick13(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately, there are far too many people on
> Wikipedia (most of whom do little actual editing
of
> articles) who are more concerned about
giving
the
> trolls the right to troll and vandalize, and
will
> attack and try to get banned those of us
actually
> out to make an Encyclopedia instead of a
> trollopedia.
>
> RickK
> Mark Richards
<marich712000(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hang on a second, I thought vandals were easy to
> deal
> with? Revert, ban if necessary, done. The
problem is
> users who have not vandalised anything, but
seek
to
> engage in endlessly convoluted arguments
with
anyone
> who will play. Unfortunately, if you play,
you
have
> lost already.
> If the troll vandalises, ban him immediately. If
> not,
> don't feed him.
> Mark
> --- Christopher Mahan wrote:
> > On Usenet or any of many online forums, trolls
can
> > be ignored (not
> > fed) and they mostly disappear. On wikipedia,
they
> > escalate their
> > vandalism, learning ever-sneakier ways of
damaging
> > articles that
> > people have spend countless hours of their
> precious
> > time crafting.
>
> > Ignoring a troll on
wikipedia is the worst
thing
> you
> > could possibly
> > do, since it will bite you in the proverbial
bum.
>
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