John Bradley wrote:
Seems the list is run by " ultrablue at
gmail.com,
dgerard at
gmail.com,
andrew.lih at
gmail.com, fennec at
gmail.com, ed.poor at att.net" WHo have
no problem manipulating the user base.
It is *very* rare that users are removed from the mailing list, as it
(together with IRC and standard email) are the only options of
communication for blocked users.
Interestingly I haven't seen any sign of there
explanation of for hat matter
anything else. Seems a but antisoial to me.
Actually, I believe that they *have* tried to explain there actions -
that they were acting in accordance with policy.
Check Violet Rigas mod to the "Grand National", for her own reasons she
has decide it is in Liverpool. WHen actually due to little things like
boroughs etc it is actualy in Sefton.
Sorry, I'm not an expert on British geography. You could probably raise
the issue on the
[
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:UK_Wikipedians%27_notice_board].
Anyway, for cosmetic reasons saying it is near Liverpool is a lot
clearer than just saying it is in Sefton (or wherever it really is)
because *Liverpool is the more notable location*. A city will always
outdo a borough - if it's such a problem, just add "in the
[[metropolitan_borough|borough]] of [[Sefton]]" and everyone will be happy.
I did. To be as polite as possible, I think you should read
[
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility] and
[
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks] again. If
you would like a prompt reply from a user, leave a comment on their Talk
page - that's what they're there for! Next time they login, they will
see "You have new messages" and investigate.
The 3RR is a highly contentious issue - I don't know why - but if you
feel hard done by, *politely* explain what you were doing, and take 24
hours (or however long the block is) off to think about it. Ultimately,
edit warring just makes people angry and does nothing to improve
Wikipedia. It harms its reputation because people will refer to it as
"that thing on the internet where everyone yells at each other about
what the facts are".
"
Her is a typical rant fro
John Bradley (john(a)ontobus.co.uk) [050423 00:50]:
I think it is everyone who cares about Wikipedia
as an encyclopedia
rather than a social club stepped forward and be counted.
Personal attacks toward other editors are not tolerated because they drive
other volunteers away from editing. This is bad for Wikipedia.
Really. I pretty much don't care how much of an expert a given editor is -
if they're acting like an arsehole and making editing an unpleasant
experience for others, we don't need them. There are PLENTY of really
quite high-grade experts editing Wikipedia who don't in fact act like
arseholes.
(This does, however, require a more than usual tolerance for and patience
with stupid fellow volunteers amongst the experts in question, and
occasional annoying having to prove things from first principles on talk
pages when the well-meaning idjit doesn't get it. This is quite a bit less
than ideal, and we need ways to deal with it, but it still isn't an excuse
for personal attacks.)
Note that Irate, the user in question, has not shown even this level of
justification for his streams of personal attacks.
- d.
"
.
I don't think this was an attack - "if they are acting *like* an a-h"
is
quite different to saying "you f-ing f-t, w-t-f are you f-ing the
article for? Stupid moron". It's like the distinction between [[newbie]]
and [[n00b]] - fine but discernable.
BTW, what *are* you an expert in? If you don't like what someone has
said, talk to them about it. Both of you might learn something, and then
we get a better article out of it. Name-calling won't get anyone
anywhere - it will get you less than nowhere, because people will
continue to associate you with your actions long after you have taken
them. It takes time to earn trust.
As for my address. I thnk you should stop worrying
less.
OK then.
Did you list them at [[WP:VIP]]?
Anyway, take a break and when you come back, don't do *anything* that
could be seen as abusive, controversial, policy breaking etc. Many users
have a "blacklist" of articles they won't touch because they _know_ that
they will only get into heated, non-productive edit wars.
--
Alphax
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax
There are two kinds of people: those who say to God, 'Thy will be done,' and those
to whom God says, 'All right, then, have it your way.' - C. S. Lewis