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From: phoebe ayers <phoebe.wiki(a)gmail.com>
Date: 2009/12/6
Subject: [Foundation-l] reports of our demise are greatly exaggerated
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Erik Zachte ran another analysis on the numbers and concluded that the
number of new editors on the English Wikipedia is *growing*, and that
the number of editors who edit regularly is basically holding steady.
It still looks like we hit a peak of new editor growth in late '06,
but the ongoing loss of editors is not as pronounced as previously
reported.
http://infodisiac.com/blog/2009/12/new-editors-are-joining-english-wikipedi…
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Thomas Dalton just volunteered for something. Anyone got favoured V&A
exhibits we don't have a pic of? Get back to him with room,
collection, cabinet, etc :-)
- d.
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Date: 2009/12/5
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Anyone visiting V&A with a camera soon?
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I have an afternoon to kill in London this Thursday and I own a
digital camera. I'm not sure I've ever been to the V&A, so I wouldn't
mind a visit. Give me a list of things to photograph!
2009/12/4 David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com>:
> I just wrote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphonicon . I notice
> there's one in the V&A, and the V&A is quite happy to have people
> taking photos to put in Wikipedia ... anyone stopping by any time
> soon?
>
>
> - d.
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On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:03:04 +0000, David Gerard wrote:
> People are a problem.
The solution, as I believe Bender said on Futurama, is "Kill All
Humans!"
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On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 16:39:55 +0000, Carcharoth wrote:
> What's that rumbling noise of discontent I hear? Oh, it's WikiProject Opera! :-)
Not a bad browser, but I prefer Firefox.
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At Newpage patrol I've been seeing quite a few articles about towns
and wildlife parks in Africa and South Asia, often by newby editors.
Getting them categorized, wikified and ideally referenced is enough
of a challenge let alone getting them geocoded.
But I do get the impression that we are filling in some of those
geographic gaps.
And most of the time I think they are being treated OK by the
deletionists. Though I did see one speedy tag where I wondered if the
tagger would have tagged as non notable a nature reserve of over
10,000 ha in North America or Western Europe.
WereSpielChequers
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> Date: Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:21:50 +0000
> From: Charles Matthews <charles.r.matthews(a)ntlworld.com>
> Subject: [WikiEN-l] Technology Guardian article on global article
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> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/dec/02/wikipedia-known-unknowns-g…
>
> Mark Graham writes. Map of density by geo-tagging round the world, and a
> sensible comment that broadband is only just coming to parts of Africa,
> meaning we can expect more editing from there in future. Actually South
> Asia needs a mention in that connection also.
>
> Charles
>
>
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> 2009/12/3 Charles Matthews <charles.r.matthews(a)ntlworld.com>:
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/dec/02/wikipedia-known-unknowns-g…
>>
>> Mark Graham writes. Map of density by geo-tagging round the world, and a
>> sensible comment that broadband is only just coming to parts of Africa,
>> meaning we can expect more editing from there in future. Actually South
>> Asia needs a mention in that connection also.
>>
>> Charles
>>
>
> Original blog post has more maps:
>
> http://zerogeography.blogspot.com/2009/11/mapping-geographies-of-wikipedia.…
>
> Slovenia seems to have rather a high number of geocoded articles per
> head of population.
>
>
> --
> geni
On Dec 3, 2009, at 4:00 AM, wikien-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote:
> Apparently people should use edit summaries and only use American
> English. Agree with the first, disagree with the second (Americans
> asserting ownership on spelling is a negative rather than a positive
> factor); but both these matters were settled five years ago. I do
> think
> it's a mistake to be so reactive in terms of what is in the
> newspapers,
> for a strategy discussion; that's a PR matter.
Charles,
You think that issues of Community Health weren't on our radar screen
long before the Wall Street Journal wrote about them? :)
Philippe
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/wikipedia/6710237/Wikipedia-
ordered-by-judge-to-break-confidentiality-of-contributor.html
is a news story about the British High Court ordering the WMF to disclose an IP number of an editor. This is in line with the statement of the Privacy Policy, as I read it. What other instances do we know of?
Charles
There's a new question of the week at Strategy wiki - http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Question_of_the_week
This week's question is:
The Wall Street Journal published an article last week detailing the
research of Felipe Ortega, indicating that the number of editors has
declined in recent years. Representatives from the Wikimedia
Foundation, meanwhile, noted that a different methodology indicates
that the number of active editors has in fact stabilized in the same
time period--as opposed to having declined.
Regardless of the methodological differences, there appears to be a
consensus that the Wikipedia community is becoming less friendly,
particularly for new users. A few relevant data points:
Ed Chi's research (at the Palo Alto Research Center) indicates that
new editors see 25% of their edits reverted
Comments left on the blog for the WSJ article indicate that a number
of editors have left because of unfriendly treatment from other
editors (e.g., edits reverted without explanations of why), and
comments on this Wiki have echoed this impression
Proposals on this Wiki have indicated that a good reward system for
contributions does not exist
Given all of the above, how could the community better reward
contributions and nurture new editors? How can the Wikimedia projects
become a friendlier and more welcoming place to share knowledge?
We'd love to have your input on the talk page of that question!
Philippe
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It's important to keep in mind that volunteers - anyone you're not
compensating for the work - do what they want, and won't do that they
don't want to. A lot of volunteer organizations implode when people
at the core forget that.
An excellent example of someone reaching their tolerance level on
stuff they don't want to do for free (althought it's commercial-ish
work on an unfunded project, rather than a purely volunteer project
for charity):
http://www.27bslash6.com/p2p.html
--
-george william herbert
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