That article is hilarious. That's why I always say if I got paid for Wikipedia, I'd quit. I wouldn't be able to say no thanks when asked to go do something I hate, like patrolling new pages which just makes me want to delete everything. Or turn off page creation. Or get desysopped for mass deletions. Now, the interesting part of the voluntary nature of Wikipedia is that there does illogically persist an ideology of status, and "moving up the ladder" just like in a professional world. In a paid environment, the motivation is usually power, money, skillsets, and networking. On Wikipedia, you can take out two of those motivating factors, but it's up to you which two you choose. ~Keegan -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan

Bod Notbod <bodnotbod(a)gmail.com> wrote: Which leads us to the question - is that "peer to peer" logo David made open source, and can we upload it to Strategy wiki? -Stevertigo

"stevertigo" <stvrtg(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:7c402e010911271703r1285a9a7gb87af201c346cb25@mail.gmail.com... Stewart's Law of Retroaction: It is easier to get forgiveness than permission. If it is on wikimedia servers of any flavour, you can move it first and if it is not clear from the upload page on the donor server, then ask permission. I was recently thinking that it would be nice to hav prefixes like (I am sure I missed a project at the end of this message), so that, if the right flags were raised on the donor server, then the file could be used by external reference, like in [[image:wikt:logo]]. This http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interwiki seems out of date for some of the tasks that volunteers do, and could do more conveniently, like port things from commons to the encyclopedia proper, which should not be necessary. HTML is *home* for external graphics and sound, unless you count some net nannies that say externals are a bad idea (and block them). The graphics and sound can come from an entirely different server, and for political reasons (spam, shock, porn), externals had to be severely curtailed on wikipedia. I see an opening in that interwiki document for a centralized list of HOW to use content directly from OTHER wikimedia servers. commons: (not present, and probably the highest source of potential demand) wikt: (implemented, and probably the only one) future: (see http://ecn.ab.ca/~brewhaha/WP_CRYSTAL.HTM for purpose) strategy: (should be mostly connections with the wikipedia: project) sophia: (Recreational Mathematics) Physically, or at least in logical terms, they're external. Legally, if they're not identical, then the differences are ignored more often than Pluto. _______ http://ecn.ab.ca/~brewhaha/Sound/Kompleet_Ingglish_Alfabet.mp3 Working here is like peeing in dark pants. You get a warm feeling, but nobody notices. --Charlie Brown