Reminder: Strategic Planning office hours will happen at:
04:00-05:00 UTC, Wednesday 25 November.
Tuesday, 8-9 pm PDT
Wednesday, 11pm - 12am EDT
We'll meet in the channel #wikimedia-strategy on IRC. More details
are available at http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_Office_Hours
You can access the chat by going to https://webchat.freenode.net/ and
filling in a username and the channel name (#wikimedia-strategy). You
may be prompted to click through a security warning. It's fine.
Another option is http://chat.wikizine.org.
Facilitator, Strategic Planning
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On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:29:14 +0000, Giacomo M-Z wrote:
> Troling? what is trolling about pointing out that IRC is not the place to be
> dicusisng Wikipedia policy affairs? Secondly, it may be free now (I have no
> idea), but it certainly was not in the past - ?15 was the figure at one
For somebody who's always criticizing IRC, you certainly seem to be
quite ignorant of it. IRC (Internet Relay Chat) is a free and open
protocol for real-time discussions, going back to the late 1980s, and
based on an earlier Bitnet Relay protocol that goes back even further
(I remember it from my college days in the '80s). There are pleny of
entirely free IRC clients (such as the Chatzilla add-on for Firefox);
the Mozilla SeaMonkey browser suite has it built in; and there are
Web interfaces to it using applets. The servers you connect to are
also free to use. The only charges that could possibly be involved
are the normal Internet access charges from your ISP, which you would
incur for any sort of Internet use.
As for whether Wikipedia matters ought to be discussed only on-wiki,
lots of people including yourself have, on occasion, chosen other
forums (including this mailing list) to discuss things related to
Wikipedia. There are many pros and cons of different venues and
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We're have a free for all discussion about BLPs, located on IRC at
#wikipedia-blptf . No agenda for this get together, more of a brainstorming
amongst the many scenario. The meeting starts at 02:00 UTC, Nov 23 (in four
an a half hours of this writing). Attendance is highly encouraged, for more
information on the task force visit <
I've created website to complement these mailing lists a venue for
discussion. It's at wikien.net <http://www.wikien.net/>. Please let me know
if you have any feedback or questions.
Karen Christensen, editor in chief of Berkshire Publishing, on why
encyclopedias are important:
Christensen was scheduled to speak at Wikimania 2006 about the
encyclopedia publishing business (sadly, she had a family emergency
and couldn't make it). Maybe Wikipedians in the Northeast could get
her to guest lecture sometime.
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I'm not here to discuss the wording of the fundraising slogans yet
again, but this one screams "legal trouble":
Wikipedia. Ad-free forever.
[Progress bar] [Donate now button]
I'd interpret this as "if we reach $7.5M, Wikipedia will be ad-free
forever". I really wish that'd be the case, but if not, people (from
simple dudes to legal trolls) might come out of the woodwork screaming
Or maybe I'm just too paranoid.
The Wikipedia Usability Initiative conducted an evaluative study of our
progress thus far in mid-October. Highlights are posted to the blog
and if you really want the skinny, the full report is here:
full videos (all 8 hours of the lab interview action) are forthcoming.
"It was easy, I wouldn't have thought it would be that easy"
"Websites don't have common sense, but programmers do!"
"I feel more empowered now."
And things we've heard before (though this time around, at least they
were more contained to tools and features we haven't changed yet):
"This is where I'd give up"
"That's a lot of html that makes my eyes dance all over the screen"
"I don't know what that means, but maybe it will tell me" (it didn't)
We'd love to hear any thoughts, comments, and feedback you have!
Sense and Simplicity,
Parul + the Usability Initiative Team