WikiEN-l December 2005

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Small keywords survey
by charles matthews 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

I have been searching the site with a few keywords, to get an idea on unsourced and potentially libellous things. For example, 'embezzled' gets 120 or so hits, with a small percentage of some concern. Some findings: Embezzler: [[Lawrence King]] was uncategorised, serious allegations not sourced Embezzled -[[Mary Manin Morrissey]] - poor writing -[[Miami-Dade County Public Schools]] - unsourced story - [[Megatech]], [[Anwar Ibrahim]] unsourced about Indonesian corruption -[[Jonathan Moyo]] Nothing was ever proved: [[La Costa]] had a massive copyvio Nothing was ever proven: [[Know Talent]] Uncategorised: [[Teamstergate]] had no category. Charles

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Please Help
by Sam Spade 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Nobs01_and_… This is not right. Sam Spade

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Fwd: WikiEN-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 189
by daniwo59＠aol.com 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

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The recent "wiki pedophile" press release
by Modemac 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

Here's something interesting: a blogger did some detective work and put two and two together to come up with a possible reason for the bogus "wiki pedophile" press release]. See here: http://www.ridingsun.com/posts/1134805044.shtml It might (emphasis on ''might'') be some petty revenge for the QuakeAID scandal early this year that was exposed to the public, thanks to Wikipedia! (See the Wikipedia entry on QuakeAID for more information about that.) -- The High Weirdness Project http://www.modemac.com

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Improper block
by Kurt Maxwell Weber 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

Yesterday, I was blocked for four months by karmafist for using the phrase "deletionist vandals" on a few AfD entries. He has blocked me in the past for the same thing, and has told me that he would block me in the future if I did it again (I did, and he did); however, he has not demonstrated that use of the phrase "deletionist vandals" is a blockable offense (he claims that it is a violation of NPA, a claim I dispute; for an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kmweber#Block_Notice_Regarding_AFD_b…). I have told him that, should he refute my objection, I would gladly change my behavior; he, however, has not done so. He simply dismisses it as "bullshit" and says that it does not NEED refutation, and then he makes the claim (which lacks any historical--or psychological--basis) that should he provide a valid refutation I would simply ignore it anyway. I ask that, at the very least, due consideration be given to my argument rejecting his claim of inappropriate behavior on my part--if my argument is wrong, then show me why. If not, then do the right thing and unblock me. That's all I ask. -- Kurt Weber <kmw(a)armory.com>

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more Kennedy assassination fun
by Abigail Brady 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

Someone has made this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_People_suggested_to_have_been_involved… Some choice quotes from this : "The two persons at the top of the list of suspects have always been Fidel Castro and President Lyndon B. Johnson. " and "There are even a few people who believe that Lee Harvey Oswald had something to do with it." It then gives a big list of names, including J. Edgar Hoover, I think the article should be speedily deleted, and the author banned for being clearly insane. However, I'm not sure whether present policy would allow me to unilaterally do that - and I'm pretty sure I'd get a lot of hassle out of doing that. So I'm bringing this to your attention. We need to be able to summarily ban crazies. -- Abi

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Defamatory biographies--a response
by daniwo59＠aol.com 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

Going through some of the recent emails on WikiEN, I noticed an email discussing how to respond to a lawyer's letter to the help desk, asking that the biography of an actress (Maria Ford) be taken down because it contained inaccurate material. In the event that you receive such emails from lawyers claiming to represent living individuals, I ask that you do NOT answer. Instead, send them to the OTRS queue. Alternately, send the email to me at _danny(a)wikia.com_ (mailto:danny@wikia.com) . I will then be able to handle it immediately or forward it to the appropriate people. Danny

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Review feature
by David Gerard 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

Magnus Manske wrote: > I would like to announce that I have begun a complete rewrite of the > validation function. The new one is hereby called "Review feature" and > is implemented as an extension. Eventually, I will remove the > SpecialValidation.php file and all related code from the phase3 module. > The sole technical purpose of this rewrite is to give Brion peace of > mind :-) OK ... any idea on time for this one? *sigh* (and avoiding the XSS vulnerabilities of the last one?) - d.

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Template:Policylist
by David Gerard 18 Dec '05

18 Dec '05

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Policylist This was created and put on the main policy pages as a guide to newbies. It was HUGE before and promptly ended up on TFD. The consensus so far appears to be to keep it because it's a nice idea, even if the form of it at the time was horrible: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Policylist&oldid=31820069 I've just been hacking on it and I think I've improved it greatly. It might even be useful. But further hacking on it is needed. Please see the talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Policylist - d.

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Fwd: [Wikinews-l] Collaborative reporting: QuakeAID and the "class action lawsuit"
by Nathan Reed 18 Dec '05

18 Dec '05

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Erik Moeller <erik_moeller(a)gmx.de> Date: Dec 17, 2005 10:30 PM Subject: [Wikinews-l] Collaborative reporting: QuakeAID and the "class action lawsuit" To: wikinews-l(a)wikimedia.org (I would appreciate it if someone could forward this to wikipedia-l, since I am no longer subscribed there.) You may have heard about the "class action lawsuit" against Wikipedia (http://www.wikipediaclassaction.org - .com is a parody). You may also have heard that this "lawsuit" is linked to [[QuakeAID]], an alleged charity soliciting donations for earthquake victims. You may know that Wikipedians have raised many doubts about the legitimacy of this charity, and have linked it to a convicted fraudster, Greg Lloyd Smith. Finally, you may be aware that "QuakeAID" is publishing, through its associated BAOU.com / OfficialWire site (currently still indexed by Google News), one article after the other against Wikipedia. A recent one has described Wikipedia as a breeding ground for pedophiles, and is linked to another recently created campaign website, Wikipedophilia.com. (You probably do not know that the same news wire also publishes stories endorsing Holocaust deniers Zündel and Faurisson.) More is probably to come. BAOU.com, "QuakeAID"'s parent company, seems to be trying to do everything possible to discredit Wikipedia, after Wikipedia has discredited QuakeAID. I think it's time for them to learn that wikis have teeth. This is a very, very serious issue and not just some troll setting up anti-wiki websites. QuakeAID has been, for some time, listed in major charity directories, and people wanting to donate money for the 2004 tsunami victims were sent there. I don't know how much money they received, but it must be substantial. _If_ this charity is a fraud (and that part is _not_ certain at this point), it's a large scale operation (registered with the IRS), and the person running it should be put behind bars. So if you've ever fancied yourself a private detective or investigative reporter, this is your chance: Wikinews is conducting a full and thorough investigation into all matters related to QuakeAID and BOAU.com. I have tried to accumulate all the information in Wikipedia and elsewhere in one place, but I will not have time to commit myself beyond this. So this will either sink or swim with your involvement. If the evidence is solid, we can publish this story, and send a nice dossier to the FBI. If we don't do anything, BAOU.com will continue its anti-wiki campaign, or disappear quietly. If you do want to join the effort of researching this, please visit: http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews_talk:Story_preparation/Wikipedia_class… If this URL breaks, use: http://tinyurl.com/bh9m2 This is a historic chance for the Wikinews, Wikipedia and blog communities to work together. Let's not screw it up. Erik

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