WikiEN-l December 2005

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Wikipedia makes Google's 2005 Zeitgeist
by Keith Old 21 Dec '05

21 Dec '05

Folks, We have made Google's 2005 end-of-year Zeitgeist list under phenomena see ( http://www.google.com/press/zeitgeist2005/phenomena.html). Regards *Keith Old* Keith Old User:Capitalistroadster.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] A newbie on article prefill templating
by Fl Celloguy 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

> > Apologies for my ignorance, but could someone explain what a pre-filled > > template is? Is it just having default text in the create new article >page? > > I must have missed the beginning of the discussion. Thanks! > >Basically, just now, you click "Create this arricle", and you get a >blank screen. > >The pre-filling idea is that when you click "Create this article", you >get a screen with skeleton headings, a bit of boilerplate text... >basically, as though someone had edited the page before you and added >some boilerplate. It gives a framework to write around rather than >just the terrifying whiteness. > >-- >- Andrew Gray > andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk Thanks for the reply! This might have been mentioned already, but if we do this, won't we get tons of newly created articles with just the text template? Flcelloguy >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/

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Re: [WikiEN-l] A newbie on article prefill templating
by Fl Celloguy 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

> > Thanks for the reply! This might have been mentioned already, but if we >do > > this, won't we get tons of newly created articles with just the text > > template? > >These will not be difficult to spot and delete :-). A handy cheat is >to ensure the text template contains [[Category:Unchecked >articles]]... or, for that matter, that it's automatically appended to >the page afterwards. > I like this idea! True, it would be easy to spot articles like this, but what if someone is just clicking "save" first before actually writing something? The category should help - if anything slips through RC patrol, then articles created with just that text will be listed at the category. Ingenious. :-) Flcelloguy >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

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Re: [WikiEN-l] I just did another interview - Dublin NewsRadio 106, 2:20pm.
by David Gerard 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

Well, bugger! I can only hope we had a Dublin reader with a tape recorder ... - d. Not at the moment David - Sorry about that s -----Original Message----- From: David Gerard Sent: 20 December 2005 13:14 To: 'Podcasts(a)newstalk106.ie' Subject: Lunchtime shows on podcast? Is the lunchtime show downloadable? I'm really after yesterday's. - thanks, David.

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Re: [WikiEN-l] A newbie on article prefill templating
by Fl Celloguy 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

Apologies for my ignorance, but could someone explain what a pre-filled template is? Is it just having default text in the create new article page? I must have missed the beginning of the discussion. Thanks! Flcelloguy >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. _________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

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[[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons]]
by David Gerard 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

I think my main objection to this is the current title: "Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons deserve special sensitivity". The very title pushes Sympathetic Point Of View, whatever the guideline content. I've suggested on the talk page: 1. Change title to [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons]] 2. Start with "Be very hardarsed with references in living persons' bios" and go from there. That is: the title should be what the guideline *concerns*. And the start should be the guideline itself in a sentence. Then we can work from there. NPOV, NOR, V. Past examples of why we need this. Don't fall into Sympathetic Point Of View. Etc. Does this sound workable? - d.

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RE: [WikiEN-l] Libel law
by Chip Berlet 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

For those who asked, this is the website from which the legal summaries were obtained. http://www.perkinscoie.com/casedigest/icd_results.cfm?keyword1=defamatio n&topic=Defamation Van Buskirk v. New York Times Loutchansky v. The Times Newspapers Limited Sabbato v. Hardy Schneider v. Amazon.com Inc I inadvertantly cut off the source information when I pasted in the summaries in my post. My mistake. Apologies. So thanks and credit go to Perkins Coie, LLP, Attoneys at Law. In most instances the useful case law summaries from the law firm's website trace back to original source documents and analyses. Cberlet

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Re: [WikiEN-l] A newbie on article prefill templating
by David Gerard 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

Matt Brown wrote: >Do you think prefilled templates should be switched on by default for >established users? (those existing prior to implementing this feature, >that is). Depends if someone codes it that way ;-) As long as there's an off switch, the screaming should die down reasonably quickly. - d.

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Biographies of living persons - new draft guideline
by David Gerard 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

Matt Brown wrote: >On 12/20/05, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote: >> I've done a rewrite of the proposed guideline at >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/temp >> It's rewritten very much in the style of a quickly usable guideline - >> you should be able to get the whole idea from the intro, the rest is >> details. >I like it. I'll see if I can improve. Make it shorter! Omit needless words! I'm still hacking away at it, so make your edits small to avoid a conflict ;-) - d.

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Re: "Fair Use does not apply to DSM material or any other APA/APPI content." um, wtf?
by David Gerard 20 Dec '05

20 Dec '05

Sam Korn wrote: >I think David meant to send this to WikiEN-l, rather than WikimediaUK-l. D'oh!! Er, yes. - d.

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