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Sam Spade

18 Dec 2005 18 Dec '05

12:41 a.m.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Nobs01_and_… This is not right. Sam Spade

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Fred Bauder

18 Dec 18 Dec

12:57 a.m.

Oh yes it is, according to you, you did nothing wrong. When you do it again we want to be able to deal with it. Fred On Dec 17, 2005, at 5:41 PM, Sam Spade wrote:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/ Nobs01_and_others/Proposed_decision#Sam_Spade_placed_on_Probation This is not right. Sam Spade _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

geni

1:06 a.m.

On 12/18/05, Sam Spade <samspade.thomasjefferson(a)googlemail.com> wrote:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Nobs01_and_… This is not right. Sam Spade

When was the last time 3 admins (outside arbcom) agreed on anything? It shouldn't be too hard to avoid disrupting the functioning of Wikipedia. -- geni

Sam Spade

3:01 a.m.

Where is his evidence of my having done that? For what reason this persecutory malevolence? The fact that I disagree w his judgement in my regards? Is that the worst of my offences? Sam Spade On 12/18/05, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 12/18/05, Sam Spade <samspade.thomasjefferson(a)googlemail.com> wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Nobs01_and_… This is not right. Sam Spade

When was the last time 3 admins (outside arbcom) agreed on anything? It shouldn't be too hard to avoid disrupting the functioning of Wikipedia. -- geni _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Sam Korn

11:30 a.m.

On 12/18/05, Sam Spade <samspade.thomasjefferson(a)googlemail.com> wrote:

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Where is his evidence of my having done that? For what reason this persecutory malevolence? The fact that I disagree w his judgement in my regards? Is that the worst of my offences?

You have nothing to worry about then. -- Sam

Sam Spade

5:35 p.m.

What I am worried about is defendants being punished based on having disagreed with the outcome of their cases. That is something I won't tolerate. Sam Spade On 12/18/05, Sam Korn <smoddy(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 12/18/05, Sam Spade <samspade.thomasjefferson(a)googlemail.com> wrote:

Where is his evidence of my having done that? For what reason this persecutory malevolence? The fact that I disagree w his judgement in my regards? Is that the worst of my offences?

You have nothing to worry about then. -- Sam _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

charles matthews

5:42 p.m.

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What I am worried about is defendants being punished based on having

disagreed with the outcome of their cases. That is something I won't tolerate. Sam Spade Ummm ... do you have difficulty with people being treated more leniently if they quietly accept what is handed down to them? I don't see us as really having a punitive regime, at the ArbCom level (I'm not discussing admin actions - with 700 admins you'll get some things that are regrettable). All this judicial language is founded on assumptions that are hard to defend - there is certainly no right to edit a collaborative website, and punishment takes the form of exclusion only from the heavy work of building the site. Charles

Sam Korn

6:51 p.m.

On 12/18/05, Sam Spade <samspade.thomasjefferson(a)googlemail.com> wrote:

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What I am worried about is defendants being punished based on having disagreed with the outcome of their cases. That is something I won't tolerate.

As the Pythian oracle said: know thyself. -- Sam

Sam Spade

7:16 p.m.

That is a red herring. Your thinking about everything backwards. I have a problem with being given punishment based on having disagreed w the arbcom.This website has no right to my labour, which I will withdraw as long as this insult is maintained. Sam Spade Ummm ... do you have difficulty with people being treated more leniently if they quietly accept what is handed down to them? I don't see us as really having a punitive regime, at the ArbCom level (I'm not discussing admin actions - with 700 admins you'll get some things that are regrettable). All this judicial language is founded on assumptions that are hard to defend - there is certainly no right to edit a collaborative website, and punishment takes the form of exclusion only from the heavy work of building the site. Charles

MacGyverMagic/Mgm

10:02 p.m.

I may be wrong, but apparently a decision hasn't been reached yet. If you disagree, appeal to Jimbo. I don't see how posting to the mailing list is going to help. Mgm

Mark Gallagher

19 Dec 19 Dec

1:23 a.m.

G'day Jack,

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What I am worried about is defendants being punished based on having disagreed with the outcome of their cases. That is something I won't tolerate.

Indeed? What do you propose to do about it? Wikipedia is not the real world. We are not building a model community here; we're building (or trying to build) an encyclopaedia. The Arbitration Committee is not a real world court, and real world procedures do not apply. Also unlike the real world, there's nobody waiting to swoop in and see that your "rights" aren't violated. (By the way, do you think you could kinda try to stop top-posting? That'd be, ahem, tops. Thanks.) -- Mark Gallagher "What? I can't hear you, I've got a banana on my head!" - Danger Mouse -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.1/206 - Release Date: 16/12/2005

Sam Spade

4:46 a.m.

Sorry, I didn't know what else to do. As far as no one being willing to help, I've made it my habit to help others ever since I came here. I'm sorry I projected that attitude onto you, I'll try not to make that mistake again. Sam Spade On 12/19/05, Mark Gallagher <m.g.gallagher(a)student.canberra.edu.au> wrote:

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G'day Jack,

What I am worried about is defendants being punished based on having disagreed with the outcome of their cases. That is something I won't tolerate.

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charles matthews
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