Can I ask for people to help me out a bit here. Irismeister is following me around trying to provoke me. My tactic of doing my best to ignore him seems to be winding him up as he made a couple of absurd edits yesterday - he removed "if swallowed ....... seek medical help" from ammonium chloride on the ground that seeking medical help from unqualified persons wastes time and is therefore dangerous. This _may_ be because english is not his first language and he doesn't realize the phrase means - go to a doctor or ring the emergency services, but I think it's just that he's baiting me.
Another example is on the reflexology page where he deleted a quote that I put in calling it obscene. This is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard so I reverted.
My problem is, I am now at the stage where I simply revert all the deletions he makes of my work without even considering his arguments. It may well be that I make a bad edit, irismeister reverts it and I revert it back again simply because it was him. I am concerned that other editors may be reluctant to argue with me for fear of agree with him, or even for fear of getting involved in the war. So I'm asking for you lot's help. If you see me revert irismeister and you think that even though he is a jerk, his edit had some merit please say so on the talk page. I can't bring myself to argue my case with him anymore, but I don't want the quality of wikipedia to suffer as a result.
Cheers.
Theresa
>Providing no link to Wikibooks' recipes when we
>move them is bad.
>--Optim
I agree. Also it should be made clear that wikibooks is a sister project, not any old external web site.
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>A contract is created. Contractual rights not civil rights.
Fair enough. Now what you wrote makes sense. I was talking about civil rights.
--mav
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I'm not sure I agree with the reasoning on NPOV and so
on, but I agree with the ends. Recipes, down to
degrees for baking, do not belong in an encyclopedia.
That said, articles on food should be encouraged. It
needn't be discouraging for new users to submit a
recipe, only to have it moved--a note on a talk page,
inviting an_article_on that food, could be polite. At
any rate, it's good to have this discussion, since
I've seen many more recipes on VfD recently than there
used to be.
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My talk with Irismeister went as predicted: nowhere.
His incoherent ravings cast too much doubt on the value of his edits for
me to condone his continued participation here.
Jimbo, please ask the Arbitration Committee to block Irismeister, at
least temporarily.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Irismeister for details.
Ed Poor, aka Uncle Ed
Hi all.
A few days ago, Jimbo referred the cases of Wik, Anthony, and Hephaestos to us.
You can see comments to date at [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration]].
While Wik has received many comments, and Anthony has received some.
Hephaestos has received precisely none (edit: one)
As an arbitrator, I must decide whether or not I believe it is appropriate for us to
investigate the matter of Hephaestos. Some assistance would be appreciated.
Note that asking us to investigate is not a condemnation of Heph: you may simply
wish us to officially clear him, if you feel he is in the right. Likewise, asking us not to
investigate is not an approval: you may simply feel the case is not important
enough.
Anyway, if you could add an appropriate comment to [[Wikipedia:Requests for
arbitration]], that would be great. I wouldn't want to disrupt your important
discussions.
Thanks,
-Martin "MyRedDice" Harper
Erik Moeller wrote:
> Legal threats against Wikipedians are unacceptable, period.
So you'd agree with something like this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_legal_threats
Feel free to boldly edit and/or express your support or distaste (or hatred, disgust,
etc)
Also, note that current and (especially!) past versions of the [[Wikipedia:Submission
Standards]] and [[Wikipedia:terms of use]] interfere with the ability of users to take
legal action without first going through arbitration, so you may wish to browse the
discussion there at some point and consider the benefits of making them official.
Erik later wrote:
> Jimbo is needed to allow us instant tempbans in case this particular policy
> is violated
That's a point of view. Another point of view is that it's up to the community to
decide under what circumstances tempbans by individual sysops are applicable,
and up to the arbitration committee and beauracrats to enforce the wishes of the
community in the matter.
If the community believes that tempbans by individual sysops are only permissable
in circumstances explicitly laid down by Jimbo Wales, then these two points of view
are identical. I wonder if this is the case.
-Martin "MyRedDice" Harper
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 17:24:26 -0800 (PST), wikien-l-request(a)Wikipedia.org wrote:
>From: Optim <optim81(a)yahoo.co.uk>
>...>
>Do you mean using the legal system is considered
>bannable behaviour?
No. I'm using the legal system this week, if the lawyer who's handling my [civil matter, none of
your business, not expected to be litigious] is ready for another conference. I admit this in the full
expectation of not being banned from Wikipedia for handling my own affairs. Is your question
deliberately misleading, or is it just looseness of expression?
New question: Is using the legal system to settle Wikipedia disputes and vendettas bannable
behavior?
Answer: How can you ask? Of course it is. Take it from an Americocentrist in litigious America:
you don't want to go there.
> I've said it before and I'll say it again. Jimbo needs to
> officially sanction our revert policy and sysops should be allowed
> to ban users for 24 hours if they violate it.
After all I've laid out - you want to ban him for a mere 24 hours?
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