Hi all, I find it hard to know what are the connections between Wikidata and authority control organizations and big live databases.
We got plenty of property that maps entities to external datas in Wikidata, but information about their freshness and the deepness of the collaboration between community and the organisations is harder to find.
There is a degree of collaboration, which come from « community does all the work, maintenance and synchronisation, updates on Wikidata are not reflected on the database » to « the organisation fully collaborate and maintains a two way synchronization of the mapping and data from Wikidata (meaning, corrections on Wikidata are reflected on the database and the other way around) ».
Do we know where we are on the scale for the major authorities ? Pages like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Authority_control/VIAF seems to be a little dead, which suggest the collaboration which VIAF seems a little dead right now. Did I miss anything ?
I have got an understanding that this is very unmature and the library world is still experimenting.... see below feedback from VIAF yesterday
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In Sweden the National Library is slowly changing system and the process for Wikidata to support it was some weeks see
* SELIBRIS = Wikidata Property:P906https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P906 will in the future be deprecatedhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deprecation * LIBRIS-URI = Wikidata Property:P5587https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P5587
after one year VIAF and LIBRIS has nt fixed the flow and are unsure what to do. We started to see problems at VIAF last month when they started to mix ld and new IDs see phabricator.wikimedia.org/T223259https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T223259
LIBRIS-XL is a projected started in 2012 with focus on Linked data and Bibframe BUT
* 7 years later nearly no Linked data * External links like VIAF is strings without a link * 60 000 links Wikidata -> LIBRIS XLhttps://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P5587 but nearly no links LIBRIS XL Wikipedia is my feeling * user interface is in Swedish no plans for english has been cmmunicated
My feeling is that this is a no win situation and that Wikidata could help Libraries what best practise is... maybe Wikidata is a better hub than VIAF
* see my suggestion for Wikimania 2019 in Stockholm T219418#5207385https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T219418#5207385
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Regards Magnus Sälgö Stockholm, Sweden 0046705937579 linkedin.com/in/magnus-sälgö-148890/https://www.linkedin.com/in/magnus-s%C3%A4lg%C3%B6-148890/
________________________________ From: Wikidata wikidata-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of Thomas Douillard thomas.douillard@gmail.com Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 12:27 PM To: Discussion list for the Wikidata project. Subject: [Wikidata] Authority control and Wikidata
Hi all, I find it hard to know what are the connections between Wikidata and authority control organizations and big live databases.
We got plenty of property that maps entities to external datas in Wikidata, but information about their freshness and the deepness of the collaboration between community and the organisations is harder to find.
There is a degree of collaboration, which come from « community does all the work, maintenance and synchronisation, updates on Wikidata are not reflected on the database » to « the organisation fully collaborate and maintains a two way synchronization of the mapping and data from Wikidata (meaning, corrections on Wikidata are reflected on the database and the other way around) ».
Do we know where we are on the scale for the major authorities ? Pages like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Authority_control/VIAF seems to be a little dead, which suggest the collaboration which VIAF seems a little dead right now. Did I miss anything ?
Thomas Douillard, 31/05/19 13:27:
Hi all, I find it hard to know what are the connections between Wikidata and authority control organizations and big live databases.
That's by design, since identifiers on Wikidata are not some kind of top-down process where ever single actor's responsibility is defined from the beginning.
This doesn't preclude good things from happening, as we've seen with LOC: https://blogs.loc.gov/thesignal/2019/05/integrating-wikidata-at-the-library-...
Federico
That's by design, since identifiers on Wikidata are not some kind of
top-down process where ever single actor's responsibility is defined from the beginning.
This doesn't preclude good things from happening, as we've seen with LOC:
https://blogs.loc.gov/thesignal/2019/05/integrating-wikidata-at-the-library-...
I know that, but indeed that does not preclude deeper collaboration and synchronisation of Wikidata datas and other resources, and that’s the status of those potential collaboration and their maturity/workflow I’m interested in. Liking is useful of course but things happens also on Wikidata like data curation, duplicates entry identification on the external database working with their identifiers if it occurs that the same Wikidata item has two identifiers (for example : https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q539#P1015 has two values at the post time). I’m interested to know if this potential is exploited by some workflow authority control organisation by a periodic review/report of comparison of their datas against Wikidata community differences. And conversely if we imported datas from a datasource, if the changes made on the original live data source are reflected on the Wikidata datas.
Hi all,
the GlobalFactSync project [1] will start tomorrow and we have established a good team to deal with many of these issues.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/DBpedia/GlobalFactSyncRE
As part of the project we will:
- work on syncing Wikidata and Wikipedias Infoboxes across languages and also try to sync references from infoboxes:
