Hey folks :)
Just an update on badges support on Wikidata. We will be rolling out support for badges on Wikidata on August 19th. At this point you will be able to store the information that a given article is a good or featured article on English Wikipedia for example. More badges can be added on request. One week later we will enable showing those badges on Wikipedia/Wikisource/Wikiquote in the language links in the sidebar. If your Wikipedia wants them to be removed from the wikitext please get in touch with Amir. He has a bot to do it for you.
You can try out the Wikidata-side of it on our test system: https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Q296
Cheers Lydia
On 15.08.2014 20:04, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
Hey folks :)
Just an update on badges support on Wikidata. We will be rolling out support for badges on Wikidata on August 19th. At this point you will be able to store the information that a given article is a good or featured article on English Wikipedia for example. More badges can be added on request. One week later we will enable showing those badges on Wikipedia/Wikisource/Wikiquote in the language links in the sidebar. If your Wikipedia wants them to be removed from the wikitext please get in touch with Amir. He has a bot to do it for you.
You can try out the Wikidata-side of it on our test system: https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Q296
Cheers Lydia
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Are badges for Wikivoyage planned?
We have four categories of articles by quality (in English): Outline; Usable; Guide; Star. Outline is just a usual article, and others are advanced quality. Would it be easy to include these three types?
Cheers Yaroslav
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod@mccme.ru wrote:
Are badges for Wikivoyage planned?
We have four categories of articles by quality (in English): Outline; Usable; Guide; Star. Outline is just a usual article, and others are advanced quality. Would it be easy to include these three types?
We started with featured and good article because we were very sure those would be ok with the community. We can easily add more like the ones you suggested. Question is how do we want to get a yay or nay on adding more? I think it would be easiest if we have a place on Wikidata where people can suggest new badges and if there is consensus we add them. What do you think?
Cheers Lydia
On 15.08.2014 20:54, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod@mccme.ru wrote:
Are badges for Wikivoyage planned?
We have four categories of articles by quality (in English): Outline; Usable; Guide; Star. Outline is just a usual article, and others are advanced quality. Would it be easy to include these three types?
We started with featured and good article because we were very sure those would be ok with the community. We can easily add more like the ones you suggested. Question is how do we want to get a yay or nay on adding more? I think it would be easiest if we have a place on Wikidata where people can suggest new badges and if there is consensus we add them. What do you think?
Cheers Lydia
Generally, this is perfectly fine with me. Specifically with Wikivoyage, I can notify all active users via Meta:Wikivoyage/Lounge and possibly also in the projects. I guess the projects are anyway free to use or not use badges provided by Wikidata, though of course it does not make sense to add badges nobody is going to use.
Cheers Yaroslav
Am 15.08.2014 20:54, schrieb Lydia Pintscher:
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod@mccme.ru wrote:
Are badges for Wikivoyage planned?
We have four categories of articles by quality (in English): Outline; Usable; Guide; Star. Outline is just a usual article, and others are advanced quality. Would it be easy to include these three types?
Seems to me like "Guide" is equivalent to "good", and "Star" is equivalent to "featured". "Outline" would be equivalent to "stub", but it's not clear to me whether marking stubs is a good use case for badges.
This raises the question - can client wikis customize the labels shown for the badges? I assume we are currently using the respective item's label in the respective wiki's language (yes, badges are q-items). But we might want to accommodate the respective community's vernacular...
Perhaps a system message could be used to override the label used for the badge?
-- daniel
Seems to me like "Guide" is equivalent to "good", and "Star" is equivalent to "featured". "Outline" would be equivalent to "stub", but it's not clear to me whether marking stubs is a good use case for badges.
This raises the question - can client wikis customize the labels shown for the badges? I assume we are currently using the respective item's label in the respective wiki's language (yes, badges are q-items). But we might want to accommodate the respective community's vernacular...
Perhaps a system message could be used to override the label used for the badge?
I'm probably confused, but could we just make a Q item to represent all "Featured" type articles and then make Q items that are sub-classes of that to represent the various different venaculars?
Q1: Featured Items Q2: Featured Articles (subclass Q1) Q3: Barrack Obama (instance of Q2) Q4: Guide Pages (subclass Q1) Q5: New York City (instance of Q4)
Thank you, Derric Atzrott
Wiadomość napisana przez Derric Atzrott datzrott@alizeepathology.com w dniu 15 sie 2014, o godz. 22:29:
I'm probably confused, but could we just make a Q item to represent all "Featured" type articles and then make Q items that are sub-classes of that to represent the various different venaculars?
Q1: Featured Items Q2: Featured Articles (subclass Q1) Q3: Barrack Obama (instance of Q2) Q4: Guide Pages (subclass Q1) Q5: New York City (instance of Q4)
Nope. Badges are properties of articles on client wikis (think Wikipedias and sister projects), not whole items on wikibase (think Wikidata). So on wikibase they belong to sitelinks.
Michał
Am 15.08.2014 22:27, schrieb Daniel Kinzler:
This raises the question - can client wikis customize the labels shown for the badges? I assume we are currently using the respective item's label in the respective wiki's language (yes, badges are q-items). But we might want to accommodate the respective community's vernacular...
Perhaps a system message could be used to override the label used for the badge?
-- daniel
Argh, this sounds very hackish but I see the problem... Please no system messages however!
Best regards, Bene
On 15.08.2014 22:27, Daniel Kinzler wrote:
Am 15.08.2014 20:54, schrieb Lydia Pintscher:
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod@mccme.ru wrote:
Are badges for Wikivoyage planned?
We have four categories of articles by quality (in English): Outline; Usable; Guide; Star. Outline is just a usual article, and others are advanced quality. Would it be easy to include these three types?
Seems to me like "Guide" is equivalent to "good", and "Star" is equivalent to "featured". "Outline" would be equivalent to "stub", but it's not clear to me whether marking stubs is a good use case for badges.
Actually, no, there is also a stub cass - on en.voy there is currently one article with a stub class. We really have three badges. On ru.voy, where I am active, we do not have stubs, and we do not have a single article with a star badge (and not planning to, there is no process to give a star badge - probably only a project-wide discussion). For us, Usable (пригодная) is like GA, and Guide (полная) is like FA.
Cheers Yaroslav
Hi Lydia,
Maybe useful to add: badges are represented by Wikidata items in the exports. The badge items are defined locally on the wikibase site that provides the site links. This is different from time and globe coordinate values, which also use items to denote globes (planets) and calendar models -- but in their case we use full URIs such as "http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q2" (Earth) instead of local ids like "Q2". Indeed, such values should use the same Wikidata URIs on any Wikibase installation (for example, if commons would use Wikibase, it would also denote Earth coordinates of images using "http://www.wikidata.org/entity/Q2" and not create an own local item for that). In contrast, badges like "Good article" are represented like "Q608" (on test.wikidata.org; on wikidata.org it denotes an entirely different process). So badges are not global identifiers but local ids on the current wiki. No problem with this, but might need to be kept in mind when interacting with this data.
Btw. is there any way for consumers (or API users) to find out which items are legal as badges?
Cheers,
Markus
On 15.08.2014 20:04, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
Hey folks :)
Just an update on badges support on Wikidata. We will be rolling out support for badges on Wikidata on August 19th. At this point you will be able to store the information that a given article is a good or featured article on English Wikipedia for example. More badges can be added on request. One week later we will enable showing those badges on Wikipedia/Wikisource/Wikiquote in the language links in the sidebar. If your Wikipedia wants them to be removed from the wikitext please get in touch with Amir. He has a bot to do it for you.
You can try out the Wikidata-side of it on our test system: https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Q296
Cheers Lydia
Am 15.08.2014 22:06, schrieb Markus Krötzsch:
Btw. is there any way for consumers (or API users) to find out which items are legal as badges?
Yes, there is the wbavailablebadges api module (we should perhaps move this into some siteconfig or so). See https://test.wikidata.org/w/api.php?action=wbavailablebadges&format=json
Best regards, Bene
Hello Lydia,
I wrote a text with explanation, why, what, where, etc to inform the Dutch community about the long wanted change at: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:De_kroeg#Vooraankondiging:_Verhuizin...
Another short announcement is placed at: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mededelingen
Greetings, Romaine
(tech ambassador for the Dutch projects)
2014-08-15 20:04 GMT+02:00 Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de:
Hey folks :)
Just an update on badges support on Wikidata. We will be rolling out support for badges on Wikidata on August 19th. At this point you will be able to store the information that a given article is a good or featured article on English Wikipedia for example. More badges can be added on request. One week later we will enable showing those badges on Wikipedia/Wikisource/Wikiquote in the language links in the sidebar. If your Wikipedia wants them to be removed from the wikitext please get in touch with Amir. He has a bot to do it for you.
You can try out the Wikidata-side of it on our test system: https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Q296
Cheers Lydia
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