On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Nadja Kutz nadja@daytar.de wrote:
Am 02.04.2012 um 20:22 schrieb Lydia Pintscher:
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Nadja Kutz nadja@daytar.de wrote:
Hello,
Is there any plan to use some kind of project management tool like trac (trac.org) ? Or at least a forum software? I find neither the mailing list nor the wiki very well suited for keeping track of the various discussion threads and software development issues.
We'll be doing SCRUM and there will be a public SCRUM log for that.
trac has a scrum plugin (which I havent yet tried out). It has also a direct hub to subversion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Subversion
No there will not be a forum. I don't want to split discussions even further.
the problem is that on this mailing list it is even problematic to identify a discussion thread. Whats so bad about to split discussions?
It would not be so much of a problem if people would change the subject of emails when they reply to a thread with a completely different topic ;-) (Like I did with this email now.) Splitting discussions over even more media is bad because it makes it even more impossible for people to keep up with everything.
I will be doing weekly summaries starting next week probably. These should be good to keep track of everything if you don't want to read all the emails.
Eventually one would like to reply to a discussion, I dont know wether this works very well if you just read the summary.
I'm afraid it is difficult to both keep up with everything and not.
Cheers Lydia
Am 03.04.2012 um 11:53 schrieb Lydia Pintscher:
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Nadja Kutz nadja@daytar.de wrote:
Am 02.04.2012 um 20:22 schrieb Lydia Pintscher:
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Nadja Kutz nadja@daytar.de wrote:
Hello,
Is there any plan to use some kind of project management tool like trac (trac.org) ? Or at least a forum software? I find neither the mailing list nor the wiki very well suited for keeping track of the various discussion threads and software development issues.
We'll be doing SCRUM and there will be a public SCRUM log for that.
trac has a scrum plugin (which I havent yet tried out). It has also a direct hub to subversion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Subversion
No there will not be a forum. I don't want to split discussions even further.
the problem is that on this mailing list it is even problematic to identify a discussion thread. Whats so bad about to split discussions?
It would not be so much of a problem if people would change the subject of emails when they reply to a thread with a completely different topic ;-) (Like I did with this email now.) Splitting discussions over even more media is bad because it makes it even more impossible for people to keep up with everything.
alone the mailbox clogging is enough of a problem. every decent forum has the possibility to sign in for an email forward for threads, if you want you can get all threads that would be then your mailing list. that is in that way you could keep a mailing list (i.e. you have not more media) but every user can filter according to his or her interests.
I will be doing weekly summaries starting next week probably. These should be good to keep track of everything if you don't want to read all the emails.
Eventually one would like to reply to a discussion, I dont know wether this works very well if you just read the summary.
I'm afraid it is difficult to both keep up with everything and not.
i think a summary is useful, but as said eventually one would like to go back to the original posting.
Cheers Lydia
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Nadja, it sounds like you would be happiest following this mailing list via the gmane (forum-like) interface, which has already been set up for you! Hurray!
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wikidata
Enjoy.
Am 03.04.2012 um 16:17 schrieb Sumana Harihareswara:
Nadja, it sounds like you would be happiest following this mailing list via the gmane (forum-like) interface, which has already been set up for you! Hurray!
at least Isabelle Ayel was as well complaining about the mailing list...so its not only for me :). But nonetheless thanks for the gmane interface and lets say I am happier about the interface than about the mailing list and wiki alone, it is an improvement. could you please take me now off the mailing list. I tried to this using your interface, but it didnt work. eventually my password was wrong, but there is no password forgotten option, so i need to ask you or someone else to do this. thanks again.
Nadja
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wikidata
Enjoy.
Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Nadja Kutz nadja@daytar.de wrote:
Am 03.04.2012 um 16:17 schrieb Sumana Harihareswara:
Nadja, it sounds like you would be happiest following this mailing list via the gmane (forum-like) interface, which has already been set up for you! Hurray!
at least Isabelle Ayel was as well complaining about the mailing list...so its not only for me :). But nonetheless thanks for the gmane interface and lets say I am happier about the interface than about the mailing list and wiki alone, it is an improvement. could you please take me now off the mailing list. I tried to this using your interface, but it didnt work. eventually my password was wrong, but there is no password forgotten option, so i need to ask you or someone else to do this. thanks again.
Ok I will do it in a minute.
Cheers Lydia