Hi Lydia and Wikidatans,
Besides the Wikidata Items and Statements' Tutorials here -
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours -
when might the other tutorials mentioned on this Wikidata Tours' page - for References, Qualifiers, Ranks, Special Values, for example - be coming, and especially inter-lingually ?
Thanks, Scott
Hey :)
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Scott MacLeod worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Lydia and Wikidatans,
Besides the Wikidata Items and Statements' Tutorials here -
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours -
when might the other tutorials mentioned on this Wikidata Tours' page - for References, Qualifiers, Ranks, Special Values, for example - be coming, and especially inter-lingually ?
It'd need someone to pick it up. Helen and Bene did the first ones but now it needs someone else to finish them I think. Any takers to start on a draft for the next one?
Cheers Lydia
Hello,
There actually are drafts already prepared for the following tours:
- References (http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/References) - Qualifiers (http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Qualifiers) - Ranks (http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Ranks) - Special values ( http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Special_Values)
As Lydia mentioned, they will require some help to get them implemented and up on the site. (The content itself also probably needs some review and updates, which I am happy to do)
On 2 December 2014 at 04:45, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hey :)
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Scott MacLeod worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Lydia and Wikidatans,
Besides the Wikidata Items and Statements' Tutorials here -
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours -
when might the other tutorials mentioned on this Wikidata Tours' page -
for
References, Qualifiers, Ranks, Special Values, for example - be coming,
and
especially inter-lingually ?
It'd need someone to pick it up. Helen and Bene did the first ones but now it needs someone else to finish them I think. Any takers to start on a draft for the next one?
Cheers Lydia
-- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata
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Lydia, Helen, and Wikidatans,
Thanks and great. These tours - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours - and developments are a great help! ... My take on these tours is that CC Wikidata/Wikipedia's abundance - now in 288 languages - has been be informed by the ease of anyone creating articles, or editing them, and in any of 288 languages, thanks to wiki information technologies, and that future Wikipedia generativity will be facilitated by "ease of anyone creating articles," and in any language. As the amazing Wikidata (still in its infancy at around 2 years' old) and related wiki structured data develop, I hope these tours will focus on this generative ease.
As a further take, and in addition to "Items and Statements, as well as References, Qualifiers, Ranks and Special Values" I'd like to see two further more general (perhaps) tours ...
Articles - How to create an article now with Wikidata and the above tours (so that anyone can easily create one interlingually - e.g. an example), with, say, possibly four languages in mind, for example?
Languages - Hot to add a new language (7,106 languages minus 288 languages equals 6,818 further languages to add in Wikipedia) now with Wikidata and the above tours (so that anyone can easily create one inter-lingually - e.g. an example), with, say, possibly four languages in mind, for example? ...
focusing on the ease and openness of anyone simply adding them. (Does such tours or similar already exist?)
And is it possible even to anticipate a tour which might inform the development of an Universal Translator (e.g. http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator) for all 7,106+ languages (e.g. http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Languages).
This would indeed be a grand tour!
Thanks again for this great work.
Cheers, Scott
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Helen Halbert helenhalbert@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
There actually are drafts already prepared for the following tours:
- References (http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/References)
- Qualifiers (http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Qualifiers)
- Ranks (http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Ranks)
- Special values (
http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Special_Values)
As Lydia mentioned, they will require some help to get them implemented and up on the site. (The content itself also probably needs some review and updates, which I am happy to do)
On 2 December 2014 at 04:45, Lydia Pintscher <lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de
wrote:
Hey :)
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Scott MacLeod worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Lydia and Wikidatans,
Besides the Wikidata Items and Statements' Tutorials here -
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours -
when might the other tutorials mentioned on this Wikidata Tours' page -
for
References, Qualifiers, Ranks, Special Values, for example - be coming,
and
especially inter-lingually ?
It'd need someone to pick it up. Helen and Bene did the first ones but now it needs someone else to finish them I think. Any takers to start on a draft for the next one?
Cheers Lydia
-- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.
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Great but...
# Once again the fact that labels and descriptions and aliases can be in multiple different languages is not mentioned - but this is exactly where we need new users to help. # When I try to edit the tour I keep getting the wrong paragraph - that is the paragraph I see for editting is not the one I clicked the edit button on (using Chrome on a Mac) # Even if I got the right paragraph I'm not sure how to deal with flagging sentences for translation. Do I leave this for others or try and do it myself? #Should this discussion be on the wiki instead of here?
Joe
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 5:38 PM, Scott MacLeod < worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com> wrote:
Lydia, Helen, and Wikidatans,
Thanks and great. These tours - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours - and developments are a great help! ... My take on these tours is that CC Wikidata/Wikipedia's abundance - now in 288 languages - has been be informed by the ease of anyone creating articles, or editing them, and in any of 288 languages, thanks to wiki information technologies, and that future Wikipedia generativity will be facilitated by "ease of anyone creating articles," and in any language. As the amazing Wikidata (still in its infancy at around 2 years' old) and related wiki structured data develop, I hope these tours will focus on this generative ease.
As a further take, and in addition to "Items and Statements, as well as References, Qualifiers, Ranks and Special Values" I'd like to see two further more general (perhaps) tours ...
Articles - How to create an article now with Wikidata and the above tours (so that anyone can easily create one interlingually - e.g. an example), with, say, possibly four languages in mind, for example?
Languages - Hot to add a new language (7,106 languages minus 288 languages equals 6,818 further languages to add in Wikipedia) now with Wikidata and the above tours (so that anyone can easily create one inter-lingually - e.g. an example), with, say, possibly four languages in mind, for example? ...
focusing on the ease and openness of anyone simply adding them. (Does such tours or similar already exist?)
And is it possible even to anticipate a tour which might inform the development of an Universal Translator (e.g. http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator) for all 7,106+ languages (e.g. http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Languages).
This would indeed be a grand tour!
Thanks again for this great work.
Cheers, Scott
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Helen Halbert helenhalbert@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
There actually are drafts already prepared for the following tours:
- References (http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/References)
- Qualifiers (http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Qualifiers)
- Ranks (http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Ranks)
- Special values (
http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Special_Values)
As Lydia mentioned, they will require some help to get them implemented and up on the site. (The content itself also probably needs some review and updates, which I am happy to do)
On 2 December 2014 at 04:45, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Hey :)
On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Scott MacLeod worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Lydia and Wikidatans,
Besides the Wikidata Items and Statements' Tutorials here -
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours -
when might the other tutorials mentioned on this Wikidata Tours' page
- for
References, Qualifiers, Ranks, Special Values, for example - be
coming, and
especially inter-lingually ?
It'd need someone to pick it up. Helen and Bene did the first ones but now it needs someone else to finish them I think. Any takers to start on a draft for the next one?
Cheers Lydia
-- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
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