Hi Scott,
Thanks for your suggestion!
I'd love to have more good information on using Wikidata. I assume, though, that putting it to the Scenarios for *List generation input *maybe not the best place (although the name suggests input in general, and I am guilty of not choosing a more specific title!)
The scenarios currently concern sharing the (real life) workflows of people who generate lists, so it may run counter the idea of suggesting/teaching workflows there (although a beginners might find them to be useful examples!)
If you want to create such a help page, feel free to link them on the List generation Input page (as said above, the title might suggest such content).
Kind Regards, Jan
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 11:44:33 -0700 From: Scott MacLeod worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikidata] List generation input Message-ID: <CADy6Cs_qZ6=sWKaCkNEZZ4LqatuK=sCb2TvaVBCOwc7a5=bnFw@mail.gm ail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi Lea, Jan, Gerrard and All,
In terms of "List Generation Input," would it make sense to add a basic intro tutorial (in video perhaps - is there one even?) about how to create a new large list in the first place in Wikipedia based on Wikidata / Wikibase, as well as a possible sandbox for exploring this? (When I google searched on "starting a long list in Wikipedia," I found this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:List - "This help page explains how to create and edit lists on the English Wikipedia," which also doesn't mention Wikidata).
Say, for example, I wanted to create a complete list of all languages in Wikipedia beginning with Glottolog's CC list here - http://glottolog.org/glottolog/language - with 7,943 entries in languages (to create wiki schools for open teaching and learning in those languages (using WUaS's Subject Template - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE), how would I begin to do this? (WUaS donated CC WUaS to Wikidata last autumn). (Similarly with all species, beginning with a complete CC list, for example, and in order to eventually co-develop, for example, an all-species' image recognition application - hold your smartphone up to any species anywhere, and identify it - and in any language), how would I begin to add such lists to Wikipedia with Wikidata?
Shall I add a scenario D to this page - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input - with these questions above?
Thank you, Scott
worlduniversityandschool.org
Hoi, I learned that for writing about gender issues the list generated by Listeria are used. The big advantage is that these lists are not fixed. Regularly people write new articles about women and consequently these lists change.
It is this functionality that is really needed and I do not get from the lists examples that need such regular updates. Thanks, GerardM
On 2 September 2016 at 10:01, Jan Dittrich jan.dittrich@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hi Scott,
Thanks for your suggestion!
I'd love to have more good information on using Wikidata. I assume, though, that putting it to the Scenarios for *List generation input *maybe not the best place (although the name suggests input in general, and I am guilty of not choosing a more specific title!)
The scenarios currently concern sharing the (real life) workflows of people who generate lists, so it may run counter the idea of suggesting/teaching workflows there (although a beginners might find them to be useful examples!)
If you want to create such a help page, feel free to link them on the List generation Input page (as said above, the title might suggest such content).
Kind Regards, Jan
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 11:44:33 -0700 From: Scott MacLeod worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikidata] List generation input Message-ID: <CADy6Cs_qZ6=sWKaCkNEZZ4LqatuK=sCb2TvaVBCOwc7a5=bnFw@mail.gm ail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi Lea, Jan, Gerrard and All,
In terms of "List Generation Input," would it make sense to add a basic intro tutorial (in video perhaps - is there one even?) about how to create a new large list in the first place in Wikipedia based on Wikidata / Wikibase, as well as a possible sandbox for exploring this? (When I google searched on "starting a long list in Wikipedia," I found this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:List - "This help page explains how to create and edit lists on the English Wikipedia," which also doesn't mention Wikidata).
Say, for example, I wanted to create a complete list of all languages in Wikipedia beginning with Glottolog's CC list here - http://glottolog.org/glottolog/language - with 7,943 entries in languages (to create wiki schools for open teaching and learning in those languages (using WUaS's Subject Template - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE), how would I begin to do this? (WUaS donated CC WUaS to Wikidata last autumn). (Similarly with all species, beginning with a complete CC list, for example, and in order to eventually co-develop, for example, an all-species' image recognition application - hold your smartphone up to any species anywhere, and identify it - and in any language), how would I begin to add such lists to Wikipedia with Wikidata?
Shall I add a scenario D to this page - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input - with these questions above?
Thank you, Scott
worlduniversityandschool.org
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Hi Léa, Jan, Gerard, Erika, Markus and Wikidatans,
Thanks very much for the clarification, Jan.
I'll explore creating a "Wikipedia-Wikidata List Generation" help page per your suggestion, and link it to - https://www.wikidata.org/ wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input (and possibly to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:List too) - and possibly with video tutorials.
The three lists as examples - and for my own understanding of how this would work on both the Wikipedia and Wikidata sides - I'd like to begin with would include
1) a) a list of all 7,943+ languages (http://glottolog.org/glottolog/language) on the Wikipedia with b) WUaS's SUBJECT TEMPLATE ( http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE) on the Wikidata / SPARQL side
2) a) a list of all CC MIT OCW courses (http://ocw.mit.edu/) in 7 languages ( http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/translated-courses/) on the Wikipedia side, with b) a WUaS Course Catalog ( https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VRHhXYsk-V9lvSh5onaU2hnEhwoapSN7HyBK...) on the Wikidata side
3) a) a list of potential matriculating and open students (at top here - http://worlduniversityandschool.org/) on the WUaS MediaWiki side https://web.archive.org/web/20150324001526/http://worlduniversityandschool.o... - paralleling the Wikipedia side) with b) how they might query the above SUBJECT TEMPLATE and WUaS Course Catalog +
And from these and in conversation with this Wikidata community, I hope to be able to extrapolate how list generation in Wikipedia/Wikidata works, and from this develop a Wikipedia/Wikidata help page for this for others.
Thank you.
Kind regards, Scott
On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 1:01 AM, Jan Dittrich jan.dittrich@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hi Scott,
Thanks for your suggestion!
I'd love to have more good information on using Wikidata. I assume, though, that putting it to the Scenarios for *List generation input *maybe not the best place (although the name suggests input in general, and I am guilty of not choosing a more specific title!)
The scenarios currently concern sharing the (real life) workflows of people who generate lists, so it may run counter the idea of suggesting/teaching workflows there (although a beginners might find them to be useful examples!)
If you want to create such a help page, feel free to link them on the List generation Input page (as said above, the title might suggest such content).
Kind Regards, Jan
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 11:44:33 -0700 From: Scott MacLeod worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikidata] List generation input Message-ID: <CADy6Cs_qZ6=sWKaCkNEZZ4LqatuK=sCb2TvaVBCOwc7a5=bnFw@mail.gm ail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi Lea, Jan, Gerrard and All,
In terms of "List Generation Input," would it make sense to add a basic intro tutorial (in video perhaps - is there one even?) about how to create a new large list in the first place in Wikipedia based on Wikidata / Wikibase, as well as a possible sandbox for exploring this? (When I google searched on "starting a long list in Wikipedia," I found this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:List - "This help page explains how to create and edit lists on the English Wikipedia," which also doesn't mention Wikidata).
Say, for example, I wanted to create a complete list of all languages in Wikipedia beginning with Glottolog's CC list here - http://glottolog.org/glottolog/language - with 7,943 entries in languages (to create wiki schools for open teaching and learning in those languages (using WUaS's Subject Template - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE), how would I begin to do this? (WUaS donated CC WUaS to Wikidata last autumn). (Similarly with all species, beginning with a complete CC list, for example, and in order to eventually co-develop, for example, an all-species' image recognition application - hold your smartphone up to any species anywhere, and identify it - and in any language), how would I begin to add such lists to Wikipedia with Wikidata?
Shall I add a scenario D to this page - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input - with these questions above?
Thank you, Scott
worlduniversityandschool.org
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