Hi Léa, Jan, Gerard, Erika, Markus and Wikidatans, 

Thanks very much for the clarification, Jan. 

I'll explore creating a "Wikipedia-Wikidata List Generation" help page per your suggestion, and link it to - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input (and possibly to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:List too) - and possibly with video tutorials.

The three lists as examples - and for my own understanding of how this would work on both the Wikipedia and Wikidata sides - I'd like to begin with would include 

1)
a) a list of all 7,943+ languages (http://glottolog.org/glottolog/language) on the Wikipedia with b) WUaS's SUBJECT TEMPLATE (http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE) on the Wikidata / SPARQL side 

2)
a) a list of all CC MIT OCW courses (http://ocw.mit.edu/) in 7 languages (http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/translated-courses/) on the Wikipedia side, with b) a WUaS Course Catalog (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VRHhXYsk-V9lvSh5onaU2hnEhwoapSN7HyBK1P09LIk/edit) on the Wikidata side

3)
a) a list of potential matriculating and open students (at top here - http://worlduniversityandschool.org/) on the WUaS MediaWiki side https://web.archive.org/web/20150324001526/http://worlduniversityandschool.org/mediawiki-1.24.1/index.php?title=Main_Page - paralleling the Wikipedia side) with b) how they might query the above SUBJECT TEMPLATE and WUaS Course Catalog +

And from these and in conversation with this Wikidata community, I hope to be able to extrapolate how list generation in Wikipedia/Wikidata works, and from this develop a Wikipedia/Wikidata help page for this for others. 

Thank you. 

Kind regards, Scott





On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 1:01 AM, Jan Dittrich <jan.dittrich@wikimedia.de> wrote:
Hi Scott,

Thanks for your suggestion!

I'd love to have more good information on using Wikidata. I assume, though, that putting it to the Scenarios for List generation input maybe not the best place (although the name suggests input in general, and I am guilty of not choosing a more specific title!)
 
The scenarios currently concern sharing the (real life) workflows of people who generate lists, so it may run counter the idea of suggesting/teaching workflows there (although a beginners might find them to be useful examples!)

If you want to create such a help page, feel free to link them on the List generation Input page (as said above, the title might suggest such content).

Kind Regards,
 Jan

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Hi Lea, Jan, Gerrard and All,

In terms of "List Generation Input," would it make sense to add a basic
intro tutorial (in video perhaps - is there one even?) about how to create
a new large list in the first place in Wikipedia based on Wikidata /
Wikibase, as well as a possible sandbox for exploring this? (When I google
searched on "starting a long list in Wikipedia," I found this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:List - "This help page explains how to
create and edit lists on the English Wikipedia," which also doesn't mention
Wikidata).

Say, for example, I wanted to create a complete list of all languages in
Wikipedia beginning with Glottolog's CC list here -
http://glottolog.org/glottolog/language - with 7,943 entries in languages
(to create wiki schools for open teaching and learning in those languages
(using WUaS's Subject Template -
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE), how would I begin
to do this?  (WUaS donated CC WUaS to Wikidata last autumn). (Similarly
with all species, beginning with a complete CC list, for example, and in
order to eventually co-develop, for example, an all-species' image
recognition application - hold your smartphone up to any species anywhere,
and identify it - and in any language), how would I begin to add such lists
to Wikipedia with Wikidata?

Shall I add a scenario D to this page -
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_generation_input - with these
questions above?

Thank you, Scott

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