Oren Bochman wrote:
Each project has its own criteria of Notability, since it requires its
own noise
filter.
As far as I understand, WikiData is about any item, not only about things that have an article in en.Wikipedia or any other Wikipedia. The question "What items may be included in WikiData" should be added to the WikiData
FAQ. I can think of a very broad definition: every thinkable thing or object can be included as item with its own page in WikiData if the thing is topic of an article in Wikipedia or in any other Wikimedia project (e.g. Wiktionary or Wikisource) or if the thing is referenced in any of this articles. This includes for example:
- normal Wikipedia articles of any language - things that are included as items in a list-of-X-article - words (Wiktionary) - digital objects (Commons) - single pages from digitized books (Wikisource) - publications used as references
Managing the vast number of items will only be possible with backlinks, for instance you can get the list of Wikidata items linked to or used in some selected Wikipedia article and you can get a list of items not used in any article for cleanup.
Jakob
What exactly will constitute an item and what will not will be up to the Wikidata community, once it exists. We will have the possibility to create pages for items that do not have Wikipedia articles, as Jakob notes, but this does not mean that there will be no notability criteria.
I agree with Oren, that we have to (and we actually did and do) consider the pragmatics of the project within the Wikimedia family of projects. And we have and will start rather simple, and slowly increase the scope of the project depending on the need and the feedback of the community. But our first priority, as already noted, is to support the Wikipedia projects, then other Wikimedia projects, then the Web as a whole, and finally anything else :)
That is one of the reasons why I am reluctant to simply say: "yes, upload all data into Wikidata". That's simply not my job to do. We are building an infrastructure that would hopefully support such a request, but in the end, a community that does not even exist yet, has to make that decision.
Cheers, Denny
2012/4/2 Jakob Voss Jakob.Voss@gbv.de
Oren Bochman wrote:
Each project has its own criteria of Notability, since it requires its
own noise
filter.
As far as I understand, WikiData is about any item, not only about things that have an article in en.Wikipedia or any other Wikipedia. The question "What items may be included in WikiData" should be added to the WikiData
FAQ. I can think of a very broad definition: every thinkable thing or object can be included as item with its own page in WikiData if the thing is topic of an article in Wikipedia or in any other Wikimedia project (e.g. Wiktionary or Wikisource) or if the thing is referenced in any of this articles. This includes for example:
- normal Wikipedia articles of any language
- things that are included as items in a list-of-X-article
- words (Wiktionary)
- digital objects (Commons)
- single pages from digitized books (Wikisource)
- publications used as references
Managing the vast number of items will only be possible with backlinks, for instance you can get the list of Wikidata items linked to or used in some selected Wikipedia article and you can get a list of items not used in any article for cleanup.
Jakob
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