Hi friends,
I was just speaking to Asaf @ WMF about the road to pairing Wikipedia book articles to copies which are freely available and readable through the Internet Archive's Open Library.
Open Library has ~16M works and ~25M editions, about 1.8M of these editions are readable without any login. An additional several hundred thousand modern works are borrowable with an archive.org account.
I recognize that there are already tens of thousands of books on Wikidata (maybe more, now!) which have Open Library IDs (olids) -- e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P648. Asaf and I wondered whether a good first step might be to see how many of the readable works Open Library has are already on Wikidata.
TL;DR -- The Open Library team would love to help empower more wikipedia and wikidata users to access readable copies of books related to the content they're viewing. And we'd love to explore donating metadata to help improve the quality of Wikidata. What are the community's feelings on this, what existing efforts may exist (or have existed) which I should be aware of, and how do you recommend we proceed in a way which respects the community's policies and goals?
best wishes,
- mek
Hoi, Why is it that we do not have our own frontend to provide books to our readers? This is of particular importance to the people who do not read English but Malayalam or Konkani, or Gujarati or .. Thanks, GerardM
On 11 March 2017 at 00:45, Michael Karpeles michael.karpeles@gmail.com wrote:
Hi friends,
I was just speaking to Asaf @ WMF about the road to pairing Wikipedia book articles to copies which are freely available and readable through the Internet Archive's Open Library.
Open Library has ~16M works and ~25M editions, about 1.8M of these editions are readable without any login. An additional several hundred thousand modern works are borrowable with an archive.org account.
I recognize that there are already tens of thousands of books on Wikidata (maybe more, now!) which have Open Library IDs (olids) -- e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P648. Asaf and I wondered whether a good first step might be to see how many of the readable works Open Library has are already on Wikidata.
TL;DR -- The Open Library team would love to help empower more wikipedia and wikidata users to access readable copies of books related to the content they're viewing. And we'd love to explore donating metadata to help improve the quality of Wikidata. What are the community's feelings on this, what existing efforts may exist (or have existed) which I should be aware of, and how do you recommend we proceed in a way which respects the community's policies and goals?
best wishes,
- mek
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I imagine, at very least for works which are in the public domain, that we feel more strongly about people having access to the books (and in a format which is valuable to them) than what reader is used. Thanks for raising an important usability question, GerardM.
best wishes,
- mek
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com
wrote:
Hoi, Why is it that we do not have our own frontend to provide books to our readers? This is of particular importance to the people who do not read English but Malayalam or Konkani, or Gujarati or .. Thanks, GerardM
On 11 March 2017 at 00:45, Michael Karpeles michael.karpeles@gmail.com wrote:
Hi friends,
I was just speaking to Asaf @ WMF about the road to pairing Wikipedia book articles to copies which are freely available and readable through the Internet Archive's Open Library.
Open Library has ~16M works and ~25M editions, about 1.8M of these editions are readable without any login. An additional several hundred thousand modern works are borrowable with an archive.org account.
I recognize that there are already tens of thousands of books on Wikidata (maybe more, now!) which have Open Library IDs (olids) -- e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P648. Asaf and I wondered whether a good first step might be to see how many of the readable works Open Library has are already on Wikidata.
TL;DR -- The Open Library team would love to help empower more wikipedia and wikidata users to access readable copies of books related to the content they're viewing. And we'd love to explore donating metadata to help improve the quality of Wikidata. What are the community's feelings on this, what existing efforts may exist (or have existed) which I should be aware of, and how do you recommend we proceed in a way which respects the community's policies and goals?
best wishes,
- mek
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
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As part of the Librarybase project I have been looking into integrating Open Library as a data source. When I saw Asaf’s presentation I saw a great deal of alignment between the two projects.
On March 10, 2017 at 3:46:26 PM, Michael Karpeles ( michael.karpeles@gmail.com) wrote:
Hi friends,
I was just speaking to Asaf @ WMF about the road to pairing Wikipedia book articles to copies which are freely available and readable through the Internet Archive's Open Library.
Open Library has ~16M works and ~25M editions, about 1.8M of these editions are readable without any login. An additional several hundred thousand modern works are borrowable with an archive.org account.
I recognize that there are already tens of thousands of books on Wikidata (maybe more, now!) which have Open Library IDs (olids) -- e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P648. Asaf and I wondered whether a good first step might be to see how many of the readable works Open Library has are already on Wikidata.
TL;DR -- The Open Library team would love to help empower more wikipedia and wikidata users to access readable copies of books related to the content they're viewing. And we'd love to explore donating metadata to help improve the quality of Wikidata. What are the community's feelings on this, what existing efforts may exist (or have existed) which I should be aware of, and how do you recommend we proceed in a way which respects the community's policies and goals?
best wishes,
- mek _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Hi Mek,
One simple first step would be to write a bot that would add the "full work available at (P953)" property to items with OL ids when the full text can be downloaded from OL.
This could potentially be part of a Wikidata version of the OAbot.
Is there any API endpoint which, given an OL id, tells if you have a free to read full text?
Best, Antonin
On 10/03/2017 23:45, Michael Karpeles wrote:
Hi friends,
I was just speaking to Asaf @ WMF about the road to pairing Wikipedia book articles to copies which are freely available and readable through the Internet Archive's Open Library.
Open Library has ~16M works and ~25M editions, about 1.8M of these editions are readable without any login. An additional several hundred thousand modern works are borrowable with an archive.org http://archive.org account.
I recognize that there are already tens of thousands of books on Wikidata (maybe more, now!) which have Open Library IDs (olids) -- e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P648. Asaf and I wondered whether a good first step might be to see how many of the readable works Open Library has are already on Wikidata.
TL;DR -- The Open Library team would love to help empower more wikipedia and wikidata users to access readable copies of books related to the content they're viewing. And we'd love to explore donating metadata to help improve the quality of Wikidata. What are the community's feelings on this, what existing efforts may exist (or have existed) which I should be aware of, and how do you recommend we proceed in a way which respects the community's policies and goals?
best wishes,
- mek
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
On 10 March 2017 at 23:45, Michael Karpeles michael.karpeles@gmail.com wrote:
TL;DR -- The Open Library team would love to help empower more wikipedia and wikidata users to access readable copies of books related to the content they're viewing. And we'd love to explore donating metadata to help improve the quality of Wikidata. What are the community's feelings on this, what existing efforts may exist (or have existed) which I should be aware of, and how do you recommend we proceed in a way which respects the community's policies and goals?
That would be great, Thank you.
You can find some information on how we accept data donations at:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Data_donation
and I would be happy to assist you with the process, and with liaising with the Wikidata community.
Thank you Andy and Antonin,
I'll answer the questions posed and follow-up shortly
On Mar 11, 2017 6:23 AM, "Andy Mabbett" andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 10 March 2017 at 23:45, Michael Karpeles michael.karpeles@gmail.com wrote:
TL;DR -- The Open Library team would love to help empower more wikipedia
and
wikidata users to access readable copies of books related to the content they're viewing. And we'd love to explore donating metadata to help
improve
the quality of Wikidata. What are the community's feelings on this, what existing efforts may exist (or have existed) which I should be aware of,
and
how do you recommend we proceed in a way which respects the community's policies and goals?
That would be great, Thank you.
You can find some information on how we accept data donations at:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Data_donation
and I would be happy to assist you with the process, and with liaising with the Wikidata community.
-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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Wiki CC OCW World University and School (accrediting on CC MIT OCW in 7 languages and CC Yale OYC), which donated itself to Wikidata in October 2015, plans to create wiki libraries in all 7,097 living languages ( http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Library_Resources), and with plans to do so in a realistic virtual earth (e.g. conceptually like Google Streetview/Maps/Earth with time slider). For example, conceptually, pick a book off the shelf in the picture of this library - http://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2015/11/lions-in-trees-all-libraries-all.h... - with a link to the book's Wikidata/Wikisource Q-item or similar.
Best, Scott
On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Michael Karpeles < michael.karpeles@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Andy and Antonin,
I'll answer the questions posed and follow-up shortly
On Mar 11, 2017 6:23 AM, "Andy Mabbett" andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
On 10 March 2017 at 23:45, Michael Karpeles michael.karpeles@gmail.com wrote:
TL;DR -- The Open Library team would love to help empower more wikipedia
and
wikidata users to access readable copies of books related to the content they're viewing. And we'd love to explore donating metadata to help
improve
the quality of Wikidata. What are the community's feelings on this, what existing efforts may exist (or have existed) which I should be aware of,
and
how do you recommend we proceed in a way which respects the community's policies and goals?
That would be great, Thank you.
You can find some information on how we accept data donations at:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Data_donation
and I would be happy to assist you with the process, and with liaising with the Wikidata community.
-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata