Hello --
There is a new *Drag'n'drop gadget* available in Wikidata > Preferences > Gadgets
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets
* Drag'n'drop*: Add statements and references from Wikidata or Wikipedia by dragging and dropping them.
Please note that there are issues with the gadget.
I would like to evangelize this gadget but for my purposes it is not functioning ---> i.e., I drag the reference and get a shadow image of text and even after waiting 5 minutes the reference does not apply; refresh clears the attempted addition
It might be a browser issue, but I have tried it on both Mac and PC, as well as on Chrome, Firefox, Safari, and SeaMonkey with exactly the same unsuccessful results. I have talked with Magnus about this (he is not having the problems I have had). It might also be a Wikidata response issue, but I think that issue was resolved.
Currently if you use Wiki Markup and want to use one of the four Cite templates via the RefToolbar these templates I don't think will transfer - Cite books: not configured. Will get error message - I have not tested Cite web, Cite journal, Cite news, but assume none of these are configured to be captured by this tool.
Obviously to configure the tool to work with these RefToolbar citation templates would be significant amount of time & effort.
But if this tool was fully functional and robust -- and was able to transfer ALL of the piped data -- it would allow for a great interoperability of citations between Wikipedia and Wikidata.
I don't build citations without using templates, as my assumption is that templates are more machine readable and more useful -- and are more consistent -- but obviously others are using different approaches. I assume bare urls are probably the most transferrable. But those didn't work for me either, so.....
I really appreciate the fact that this gadget is available and the hard work it took to create it. Magnus has been very patient and kind offlist trying to problem-solve the issues I have had.
I just wanted to follow up and provide this information, as it seems an important tool for us citation-focused editors.
Best,
- Erika
*Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle*
Hi all,
I have tried to replicate the issue in FIrefox, Chrome, and Safari. It appears to work for me, bowever, API calls occasionally took a signisicant amount of time. This was the case for a few minutes, and then "fixed" itself. So some of the described effect might be due to "Wikidata weather".
If anyone else has issues with this gadget, please report them to me, ideally with detailed "story" (action performed, browser, item, etc.) I need to be able to reproduce the issue reliably to fix any problems that may be in the code.
Also, if you know JavaScript, please have a look and help improve the gadget for more and better reference import. (You can also drag Commons images, coodrinates, and Wikipedia links as new statements!).
Cheers, Magnus
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 5:14 PM Brill Lyle wp.brilllyle@gmail.com wrote:
Hello --
There is a new *Drag'n'drop gadget* available in Wikidata > Preferences > Gadgets
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets
- Drag'n'drop*: Add statements and references from Wikidata or
Wikipedia by dragging and dropping them.
Please note that there are issues with the gadget.
I would like to evangelize this gadget but for my purposes it is not functioning ---> i.e., I drag the reference and get a shadow image of text and even after waiting 5 minutes the reference does not apply; refresh clears the attempted addition
It might be a browser issue, but I have tried it on both Mac and PC, as well as on Chrome, Firefox, Safari, and SeaMonkey with exactly the same unsuccessful results. I have talked with Magnus about this (he is not having the problems I have had). It might also be a Wikidata response issue, but I think that issue was resolved.
Currently if you use Wiki Markup and want to use one of the four Cite templates via the RefToolbar these templates I don't think will transfer
- Cite books: not configured. Will get error message
- I have not tested Cite web, Cite journal, Cite news, but assume none of
these are configured to be captured by this tool.
Obviously to configure the tool to work with these RefToolbar citation templates would be significant amount of time & effort.
But if this tool was fully functional and robust -- and was able to transfer ALL of the piped data -- it would allow for a great interoperability of citations between Wikipedia and Wikidata.
I don't build citations without using templates, as my assumption is that templates are more machine readable and more useful -- and are more consistent -- but obviously others are using different approaches. I assume bare urls are probably the most transferrable. But those didn't work for me either, so.....
I really appreciate the fact that this gadget is available and the hard work it took to create it. Magnus has been very patient and kind offlist trying to problem-solve the issues I have had.
I just wanted to follow up and provide this information, as it seems an important tool for us citation-focused editors.
Best,
- Erika
*Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle* _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
When might CC WUaS begin to use robustly this great tool, Magnus?
Thank you! Scott
On Jul 13, 2016 3:08 PM, "Magnus Manske" magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I have tried to replicate the issue in FIrefox, Chrome, and Safari. It appears to work for me, bowever, API calls occasionally took a signisicant amount of time. This was the case for a few minutes, and then "fixed" itself. So some of the described effect might be due to "Wikidata weather".
If anyone else has issues with this gadget, please report them to me, ideally with detailed "story" (action performed, browser, item, etc.) I need to be able to reproduce the issue reliably to fix any problems that may be in the code.
Also, if you know JavaScript, please have a look and help improve the gadget for more and better reference import. (You can also drag Commons images, coodrinates, and Wikipedia links as new statements!).
Cheers, Magnus
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 5:14 PM Brill Lyle wp.brilllyle@gmail.com wrote:
Hello --
There is a new *Drag'n'drop gadget* available in Wikidata > Preferences
Gadgets
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets
- Drag'n'drop*: Add statements and references from Wikidata or
Wikipedia by dragging and dropping them.
Please note that there are issues with the gadget.
I would like to evangelize this gadget but for my purposes it is not functioning ---> i.e., I drag the reference and get a shadow image of text and even after waiting 5 minutes the reference does not apply; refresh clears the attempted addition
It might be a browser issue, but I have tried it on both Mac and PC, as well as on Chrome, Firefox, Safari, and SeaMonkey with exactly the same unsuccessful results. I have talked with Magnus about this (he is not having the problems I have had). It might also be a Wikidata response issue, but I think that issue was resolved.
Currently if you use Wiki Markup and want to use one of the four Cite templates via the RefToolbar these templates I don't think will transfer
- Cite books: not configured. Will get error message
- I have not tested Cite web, Cite journal, Cite news, but assume none of
these are configured to be captured by this tool.
Obviously to configure the tool to work with these RefToolbar citation templates would be significant amount of time & effort.
But if this tool was fully functional and robust -- and was able to transfer ALL of the piped data -- it would allow for a great interoperability of citations between Wikipedia and Wikidata.
I don't build citations without using templates, as my assumption is that templates are more machine readable and more useful -- and are more consistent -- but obviously others are using different approaches. I assume bare urls are probably the most transferrable. But those didn't work for me either, so.....
I really appreciate the fact that this gadget is available and the hard work it took to create it. Magnus has been very patient and kind offlist trying to problem-solve the issues I have had.
I just wanted to follow up and provide this information, as it seems an important tool for us citation-focused editors.
Best,
- Erika
*Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle* _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
You can start using it right now! It's been robust enough in my tests, YMMV.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:21 PM Info WorldUniversity < info@worlduniversityandschool.org> wrote:
When might CC WUaS begin to use robustly this great tool, Magnus?
Thank you! Scott
On Jul 13, 2016 3:08 PM, "Magnus Manske" magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I have tried to replicate the issue in FIrefox, Chrome, and Safari. It appears to work for me, bowever, API calls occasionally took a signisicant amount of time. This was the case for a few minutes, and then "fixed" itself. So some of the described effect might be due to "Wikidata weather".
If anyone else has issues with this gadget, please report them to me, ideally with detailed "story" (action performed, browser, item, etc.) I need to be able to reproduce the issue reliably to fix any problems that may be in the code.
Also, if you know JavaScript, please have a look and help improve the gadget for more and better reference import. (You can also drag Commons images, coodrinates, and Wikipedia links as new statements!).
Cheers, Magnus
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 5:14 PM Brill Lyle wp.brilllyle@gmail.com wrote:
Hello --
There is a new *Drag'n'drop gadget* available in Wikidata > Preferences
Gadgets
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets
- Drag'n'drop*: Add statements and references from Wikidata or
Wikipedia by dragging and dropping them.
Please note that there are issues with the gadget.
I would like to evangelize this gadget but for my purposes it is not functioning ---> i.e., I drag the reference and get a shadow image of text and even after waiting 5 minutes the reference does not apply; refresh clears the attempted addition
It might be a browser issue, but I have tried it on both Mac and PC, as well as on Chrome, Firefox, Safari, and SeaMonkey with exactly the same unsuccessful results. I have talked with Magnus about this (he is not having the problems I have had). It might also be a Wikidata response issue, but I think that issue was resolved.
Currently if you use Wiki Markup and want to use one of the four Cite templates via the RefToolbar these templates I don't think will transfer
- Cite books: not configured. Will get error message
- I have not tested Cite web, Cite journal, Cite news, but assume none
of these are configured to be captured by this tool.
Obviously to configure the tool to work with these RefToolbar citation templates would be significant amount of time & effort.
But if this tool was fully functional and robust -- and was able to transfer ALL of the piped data -- it would allow for a great interoperability of citations between Wikipedia and Wikidata.
I don't build citations without using templates, as my assumption is that templates are more machine readable and more useful -- and are more consistent -- but obviously others are using different approaches. I assume bare urls are probably the most transferrable. But those didn't work for me either, so.....
I really appreciate the fact that this gadget is available and the hard work it took to create it. Magnus has been very patient and kind offlist trying to problem-solve the issues I have had.
I just wanted to follow up and provide this information, as it seems an important tool for us citation-focused editors.
Best,
- Erika
*Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle* _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Thank you, - but WUaS isn't yet begun in Wikidata, so will have to wait still a bit!
Regards, Scott
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
You can start using it right now! It's been robust enough in my tests, YMMV.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:21 PM Info WorldUniversity < info@worlduniversityandschool.org> wrote:
When might CC WUaS begin to use robustly this great tool, Magnus?
Thank you! Scott
On Jul 13, 2016 3:08 PM, "Magnus Manske" magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I have tried to replicate the issue in FIrefox, Chrome, and Safari. It appears to work for me, bowever, API calls occasionally took a signisicant amount of time. This was the case for a few minutes, and then "fixed" itself. So some of the described effect might be due to "Wikidata weather".
If anyone else has issues with this gadget, please report them to me, ideally with detailed "story" (action performed, browser, item, etc.) I need to be able to reproduce the issue reliably to fix any problems that may be in the code.
Also, if you know JavaScript, please have a look and help improve the gadget for more and better reference import. (You can also drag Commons images, coodrinates, and Wikipedia links as new statements!).
Cheers, Magnus
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 5:14 PM Brill Lyle wp.brilllyle@gmail.com wrote:
Hello --
There is a new *Drag'n'drop gadget* available in Wikidata > Preferences > Gadgets
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets
- Drag'n'drop*: Add statements and references from Wikidata or
Wikipedia by dragging and dropping them.
Please note that there are issues with the gadget.
I would like to evangelize this gadget but for my purposes it is not functioning ---> i.e., I drag the reference and get a shadow image of text and even after waiting 5 minutes the reference does not apply; refresh clears the attempted addition
It might be a browser issue, but I have tried it on both Mac and PC, as well as on Chrome, Firefox, Safari, and SeaMonkey with exactly the same unsuccessful results. I have talked with Magnus about this (he is not having the problems I have had). It might also be a Wikidata response issue, but I think that issue was resolved.
Currently if you use Wiki Markup and want to use one of the four Cite templates via the RefToolbar these templates I don't think will transfer
- Cite books: not configured. Will get error message
- I have not tested Cite web, Cite journal, Cite news, but assume none
of these are configured to be captured by this tool.
Obviously to configure the tool to work with these RefToolbar citation templates would be significant amount of time & effort.
But if this tool was fully functional and robust -- and was able to transfer ALL of the piped data -- it would allow for a great interoperability of citations between Wikipedia and Wikidata.
I don't build citations without using templates, as my assumption is that templates are more machine readable and more useful -- and are more consistent -- but obviously others are using different approaches. I assume bare urls are probably the most transferrable. But those didn't work for me either, so.....
I really appreciate the fact that this gadget is available and the hard work it took to create it. Magnus has been very patient and kind offlist trying to problem-solve the issues I have had.
I just wanted to follow up and provide this information, as it seems an important tool for us citation-focused editors.
Best,
- Erika
*Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle* _______________________________________________ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata