Hello, I'm glad to can announce my last experiment working with Wikidata and Wikipedia-coordinates: http://tools.wmflabs.org/wp-world/wikidata/superclasses.php?lang=en
This list shows how many objects we have in different classes and provide links to maps with only this specific class.
I think it's much more useful than in the past where 80% of our coordinates were simply a "landmark". Now we have maps full with roller coaster or with museums.
To create this tool I used properties "is instance of"[1] and "is subclass of"[2]. To extract this properties it was necessary to use "Wikidata Query".
Now all classes, where an object is a member, are in a numerical array-element in the database. So with an index on this array it should have a good performances.
Next steps are to try to bring more order inside this list and support the community to create more "is instance of"-entries in Wikidata. (Only 30% off all objects have such an entry).
Greetings from Switzerland Kolossos
[1]https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P31 [2]https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P279
Kolossos, Thanks for this work - it's fascinating to see the huge gaps in the data and I was wondering if maybe this reflects the work of lots of individuals who have input those properties by hand, or whether some people have enabled clever bots for their regions that other regions could reuse? (hopefully)
I can see at a glance in the case of the Netherlands that not all objects in the subclass lists that are in the English (or Dutch!) Wikipedia with geo-coordinates are in the overlay maps, so I was wondering how the data got in there. I was also interested to see some slight incorrections in the coordinates for certain subclasses (probably based on some older geocoordinate conversion software for some specific database).
Jane
2014-05-10 10:19 GMT+02:00, Tim Alder tim@alder-digital.de:
Hello, I'm glad to can announce my last experiment working with Wikidata and Wikipedia-coordinates: http://tools.wmflabs.org/wp-world/wikidata/superclasses.php?lang=en
This list shows how many objects we have in different classes and provide links to maps with only this specific class.
I think it's much more useful than in the past where 80% of our coordinates were simply a "landmark". Now we have maps full with roller coaster or with museums.
To create this tool I used properties "is instance of"[1] and "is subclass of"[2]. To extract this properties it was necessary to use "Wikidata Query".
Now all classes, where an object is a member, are in a numerical array-element in the database. So with an index on this array it should have a good performances.
Next steps are to try to bring more order inside this list and support the community to create more "is instance of"-entries in Wikidata. (Only 30% off all objects have such an entry).
Greetings from Switzerland Kolossos
[1]https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P31 [2]https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P279
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Hello, so I have 3.5 Mio objects in my database that are coming from 42 Wikipedias. There are also some objects from projects like WikiLovesMonuments. Wikidata contains only 1.2 Mio articles, but I hope this is only a question of time to have all objects.
The database is available on WMLabs now[1].
Each object on the map have pop-up and on the end of it there there you can find the source. I have in the moment a problem with nl.wp because they doesn't work in my source from User:dispenser[2].
The problem with kangaroo-isle was a missing icon, it works now.
Greetings Tim
[1]http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/maps-l/2014-April/001364.html [2]https://toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/locateCoord.py?dbname=coord_nlwiki...
Am 10.05.2014 10:46, schrieb Jane Darnell:
Kolossos, Thanks for this work - it's fascinating to see the huge gaps in the data and I was wondering if maybe this reflects the work of lots of individuals who have input those properties by hand, or whether some people have enabled clever bots for their regions that other regions could reuse? (hopefully)
I can see at a glance in the case of the Netherlands that not all objects in the subclass lists that are in the English (or Dutch!) Wikipedia with geo-coordinates are in the overlay maps, so I was wondering how the data got in there. I was also interested to see some slight incorrections in the coordinates for certain subclasses (probably based on some older geocoordinate conversion software for some specific database).
Jane
2014-05-10 10:19 GMT+02:00, Tim Alder tim@alder-digital.de:
Hello, I'm glad to can announce my last experiment working with Wikidata and Wikipedia-coordinates: http://tools.wmflabs.org/wp-world/wikidata/superclasses.php?lang=en
This list shows how many objects we have in different classes and provide links to maps with only this specific class.
I think it's much more useful than in the past where 80% of our coordinates were simply a "landmark". Now we have maps full with roller coaster or with museums.
To create this tool I used properties "is instance of"[1] and "is subclass of"[2]. To extract this properties it was necessary to use "Wikidata Query".
Now all classes, where an object is a member, are in a numerical array-element in the database. So with an index on this array it should have a good performances.
Next steps are to try to bring more order inside this list and support the community to create more "is instance of"-entries in Wikidata. (Only 30% off all objects have such an entry).
Greetings from Switzerland Kolossos
[1]https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P31 [2]https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P279
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Hoi Tim. Does many of the stuff you have have associated properties in Wikidata.. because it should be possible to import them using bots. Thanks, GerardM
On 10 May 2014 15:15, Kolossos tim@alder-digital.de wrote:
Hello, so I have 3.5 Mio objects in my database that are coming from 42 Wikipedias. There are also some objects from projects like WikiLovesMonuments. Wikidata contains only 1.2 Mio articles, but I hope this is only a question of time to have all objects.
The database is available on WMLabs now[1].
Each object on the map have pop-up and on the end of it there there you can find the source. I have in the moment a problem with nl.wp because they doesn't work in my source from User:dispenser[2].
The problem with kangaroo-isle was a missing icon, it works now.
Greetings Tim
[1]http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/maps-l/2014-April/001364.html [2] https://toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/locateCoord.py?dbname=coord_nlwiki...
Am 10.05.2014 10:46, schrieb Jane Darnell:
Kolossos, Thanks for this work - it's fascinating to see the huge gaps in the data and I was wondering if maybe this reflects the work of lots of individuals who have input those properties by hand, or whether some people have enabled clever bots for their regions that other regions could reuse? (hopefully)
I can see at a glance in the case of the Netherlands that not all objects in the subclass lists that are in the English (or Dutch!) Wikipedia with geo-coordinates are in the overlay maps, so I was wondering how the data got in there. I was also interested to see some slight incorrections in the coordinates for certain subclasses (probably based on some older geocoordinate conversion software for some specific database).
Jane
2014-05-10 10:19 GMT+02:00, Tim Alder tim@alder-digital.de:
Hello, I'm glad to can announce my last experiment working with Wikidata and Wikipedia-coordinates: http://tools.wmflabs.org/wp-world/wikidata/superclasses.php?lang=en
This list shows how many objects we have in different classes and provide links to maps with only this specific class.
I think it's much more useful than in the past where 80% of our coordinates were simply a "landmark". Now we have maps full with roller coaster or with museums.
To create this tool I used properties "is instance of"[1] and "is subclass of"[2]. To extract this properties it was necessary to use "Wikidata Query".
Now all classes, where an object is a member, are in a numerical array-element in the database. So with an index on this array it should have a good performances.
Next steps are to try to bring more order inside this list and support the community to create more "is instance of"-entries in Wikidata. (Only 30% off all objects have such an entry).
Greetings from Switzerland Kolossos
[1]https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P31 [2]https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P279
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Hello GerardM, all entries have a Wikidata-ID. So someone could start a bot... Greetings Tim
Am 10.05.2014 16:04, schrieb Gerard Meijssen:
Hoi Tim. Does many of the stuff you have have associated properties in Wikidata.. because it should be possible to import them using bots. Thanks, GerardM
On 10 May 2014 15:15, Kolossos <tim@alder-digital.de mailto:tim@alder-digital.de> wrote:
Hello, so I have 3.5 Mio objects in my database that are coming from 42 Wikipedias. There are also some objects from projects like WikiLovesMonuments. Wikidata contains only 1.2 Mio articles, but I hope this is only a question of time to have all objects. The database is available on WMLabs now[1]. Each object on the map have pop-up and on the end of it there there you can find the source. I have in the moment a problem with nl.wp because they doesn't work in my source from User:dispenser[2]. The problem with kangaroo-isle was a missing icon, it works now. Greetings Tim [1]http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/maps-l/2014-April/001364.html [2]https://toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/locateCoord.py?dbname=coord_nlwiki&lon=4.890444&lat=52.370197&range_km=10 Am 10.05.2014 10:46, schrieb Jane Darnell: > Kolossos, > Thanks for this work - it's fascinating to see the huge gaps in the > data and I was wondering if maybe this reflects the work of lots of > individuals who have input those properties by hand, or whether some > people have enabled clever bots for their regions that other regions > could reuse? (hopefully) > > I can see at a glance in the case of the Netherlands that not all > objects in the subclass lists that are in the English (or Dutch!) > Wikipedia with geo-coordinates are in the overlay maps, so I was > wondering how the data got in there. I was also interested to see some > slight incorrections in the coordinates for certain subclasses > (probably based on some older geocoordinate conversion software for > some specific database). > > Jane > > 2014-05-10 10:19 GMT+02:00, Tim Alder <tim@alder-digital.de <mailto:tim@alder-digital.de>>: >> Hello, >> I'm glad to can announce my last experiment working with Wikidata and >> Wikipedia-coordinates: >> http://tools.wmflabs.org/wp-world/wikidata/superclasses.php?lang=en >> >> This list shows how many objects we have in different classes and >> provide links to maps with only this specific class. >> >> I think it's much more useful than in the past where 80% of our >> coordinates were simply a "landmark". Now we have maps full with roller >> coaster or with museums. >> >> To create this tool I used properties "is instance of"[1] and "is >> subclass of"[2]. To extract this properties it was necessary to use >> "Wikidata Query". >> >> Now all classes, where an object is a member, are in a numerical >> array-element in the database. So with an index on this array it should >> have a good performances. >> >> Next steps are to try to bring more order inside this list and support >> the community to create more "is instance of"-entries in Wikidata. (Only >> 30% off all objects have such an entry). >> >> Greetings from Switzerland >> Kolossos >> >> [1]https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P31 >> [2]https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P279 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
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Hi Tim and Wikidatans,
Great and thanks. I noticed in your data a number of references to space (e.g. spacecraft, etc), but am wondering if geo coordinates in Wikidata, are anticipating space and the galaxies in any way?
It what ways now would it be possible to interface with, for example, the new astrophysics modeling software, Illustris? See this MIT / Harvard project ...
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2014/05/astronomers-create-first-reali...
http://www.illustris-project.org/
Are there any current examples of non-earth Wikidata and Wikipedia-coordinates, for example?
Cheers, Scott
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Kolossos tim@alder-digital.de wrote:
Hello GerardM, all entries have a Wikidata-ID. So someone could start a bot... Greetings Tim
Am 10.05.2014 16:04, schrieb Gerard Meijssen:
Hoi Tim. Does many of the stuff you have have associated properties in Wikidata.. because it should be possible to import them using bots. Thanks, GerardM
On 10 May 2014 15:15, Kolossos <tim@alder-digital.de mailto:tim@alder-digital.de> wrote:
Hello, so I have 3.5 Mio objects in my database that are coming from 42 Wikipedias. There are also some objects from projects like WikiLovesMonuments. Wikidata contains only 1.2 Mio articles, but Ihope
this is only a question of time to have all objects. The database is available on WMLabs now[1]. Each object on the map have pop-up and on the end of it there thereyou
can find the source. I have in the moment a problem with nl.wpbecause
they doesn't work in my source from User:dispenser[2]. The problem with kangaroo-isle was a missing icon, it works now. Greetings Tim [1]http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/maps-l/2014-April/001364.html
[2]https://toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/locateCoord.py?dbname=coord_nlwiki...
Am 10.05.2014 10:46, schrieb Jane Darnell: > Kolossos, > Thanks for this work - it's fascinating to see the huge gaps in the > data and I was wondering if maybe this reflects the work of lots of > individuals who have input those properties by hand, or whethersome
> people have enabled clever bots for their regions that otherregions
> could reuse? (hopefully) > > I can see at a glance in the case of the Netherlands that not all > objects in the subclass lists that are in the English (or Dutch!) > Wikipedia with geo-coordinates are in the overlay maps, so I was > wondering how the data got in there. I was also interested to seesome
> slight incorrections in the coordinates for certain subclasses > (probably based on some older geocoordinate conversion software for > some specific database). > > Jane > > 2014-05-10 10:19 GMT+02:00, Tim Alder <tim@alder-digital.de <mailto:tim@alder-digital.de>>: >> Hello, >> I'm glad to can announce my last experiment working with Wikidataand
>> Wikipedia-coordinates: >>http://tools.wmflabs.org/wp-world/wikidata/superclasses.php?lang=en
>> >> This list shows how many objects we have in different classes and >> provide links to maps with only this specific class. >> >> I think it's much more useful than in the past where 80% of our >> coordinates were simply a "landmark". Now we have maps full with roller >> coaster or with museums. >> >> To create this tool I used properties "is instance of"[1] and "is >> subclass of"[2]. To extract this properties it was necessary touse
>> "Wikidata Query". >> >> Now all classes, where an object is a member, are in a numerical >> array-element in the database. So with an index on this array it should >> have a good performances. >> >> Next steps are to try to bring more order inside this list and support >> the community to create more "is instance of"-entries in Wikidata. (Only >> 30% off all objects have such an entry). >> >> Greetings from Switzerland >> Kolossos >> >> [1]https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P31 >> [2]https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P279 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
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On 10 May 2014 21:58, Scott MacLeod worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com wrote:
Are there any current examples of non-earth Wikidata and Wikipedia-coordinates, for example?
The [English] Wikipedia coordinate system supports other planetary coordinates:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristarchus_(crater)
From the documentation:
...recognized values are: mercury, venus, moon, mars, phobos, deimos, ceres, vesta, ganymede, callisto, io, europa, mimas, enceladus, tethys, dione, rhea, titan, hyperion, iapetus, phoebe, miranda, ariel, umbriel, titania, oberon, triton, and pluto.
There is similar support for celestial coordinates:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnard%27s_Star
Not sure how Wikidata currently supports any of these.
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 4:04 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
On 10 May 2014 21:58, Scott MacLeod worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com wrote:
Are there any current examples of non-earth Wikidata and Wikipedia-coordinates, for example?
The [English] Wikipedia coordinate system supports other planetary coordinates:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristarchus_(crater)
From the documentation:
...recognized values are: mercury, venus, moon, mars, phobos, deimos, ceres, vesta, ganymede, callisto, io, europa, mimas, enceladus, tethys, dione, rhea, titan, hyperion, iapetus, phoebe, miranda, ariel, umbriel, titania, oberon, triton, and pluto.
On the raw version of the item for Aristarchus crater ( https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Export/Q542806 ) , you can see a reference to the coordinates being associated with globe https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q405 (moon)
There is similar support for celestial coordinates:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnard%27s_Star
Not sure how Wikidata currently supports any of these.
Im not sure about celestial coordinates. It looks like this may not be supported yet.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/4#Celestial...
Gerard.meijssen@gmail.com Op 10 mei 2014 16:10 schreef "Kolossos" tim@alder-digital.de:
Hello GerardM, all entries have a Wikidata-ID. So someone could start a bot... Greetings Tim
Am 10.05.2014 16:04, schrieb Gerard Meijssen:
Hoi Tim. Does many of the stuff you have have associated properties in Wikidata.. because it should be possible to import them using bots. Thanks, GerardM
On 10 May 2014 15:15, Kolossos <tim@alder-digital.de mailto:tim@alder-digital.de> wrote:
Hello, so I have 3.5 Mio objects in my database that are coming from 42 Wikipedias. There are also some objects from projects like WikiLovesMonuments. Wikidata contains only 1.2 Mio articles, but Ihope
this is only a question of time to have all objects. The database is available on WMLabs now[1]. Each object on the map have pop-up and on the end of it there thereyou
can find the source. I have in the moment a problem with nl.wpbecause
they doesn't work in my source from User:dispenser[2]. The problem with kangaroo-isle was a missing icon, it works now. Greetings Tim [1]http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/maps-l/2014-April/001364.html
[2]https://toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/locateCoord.py?dbname=coord_nlwiki...
Am 10.05.2014 10:46, schrieb Jane Darnell: > Kolossos, > Thanks for this work - it's fascinating to see the huge gaps in the > data and I was wondering if maybe this reflects the work of lots of > individuals who have input those properties by hand, or whethersome
> people have enabled clever bots for their regions that otherregions
> could reuse? (hopefully) > > I can see at a glance in the case of the Netherlands that not all > objects in the subclass lists that are in the English (or Dutch!) > Wikipedia with geo-coordinates are in the overlay maps, so I was > wondering how the data got in there. I was also interested to seesome
> slight incorrections in the coordinates for certain subclasses > (probably based on some older geocoordinate conversion software for > some specific database). > > Jane > > 2014-05-10 10:19 GMT+02:00, Tim Alder <tim@alder-digital.de <mailto:tim@alder-digital.de>>: >> Hello, >> I'm glad to can announce my last experiment working with Wikidataand
>> Wikipedia-coordinates: >>http://tools.wmflabs.org/wp-world/wikidata/superclasses.php?lang=en
>> >> This list shows how many objects we have in different classes and >> provide links to maps with only this specific class. >> >> I think it's much more useful than in the past where 80% of our >> coordinates were simply a "landmark". Now we have maps full with roller >> coaster or with museums. >> >> To create this tool I used properties "is instance of"[1] and "is >> subclass of"[2]. To extract this properties it was necessary touse
>> "Wikidata Query". >> >> Now all classes, where an object is a member, are in a numerical >> array-element in the database. So with an index on this array it should >> have a good performances. >> >> Next steps are to try to bring more order inside this list and support >> the community to create more "is instance of"-entries in Wikidata. (Only >> 30% off all objects have such an entry). >> >> Greetings from Switzerland >> Kolossos >> >> [1]https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P31 >> [2]https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P279 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikidata-l mailing list >> Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikidata-l mailing list > Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > _______________________________________________ Wikidata-l mailing list Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l
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Hi Tim,
It looks great!
I also wanting to better understand which items appear. For example, I am wondering why Kangaroo Island doesnt have a marker on the 'island' map
http://tools.wmflabs.org/wiwosm/osm-on-ol/kml-on-ol.php?lang=en&uselang=...
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q210371
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Tim Alder tim@alder-digital.de wrote:
Hello, I'm glad to can announce my last experiment working with Wikidata and Wikipedia-coordinates: http://tools.wmflabs.org/wp-world/wikidata/superclasses.php?lang=en
This list shows how many objects we have in different classes and provide links to maps with only this specific class.
I think it's much more useful than in the past where 80% of our coordinates were simply a "landmark". Now we have maps full with roller coaster or with museums.
To create this tool I used properties "is instance of"[1] and "is subclass of"[2]. To extract this properties it was necessary to use "Wikidata Query".
Now all classes, where an object is a member, are in a numerical array-element in the database. So with an index on this array it should have a good performances.
Next steps are to try to bring more order inside this list and support the community to create more "is instance of"-entries in Wikidata. (Only 30% off all objects have such an entry).
Greetings from Switzerland Kolossos
[1]https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P31 [2]https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P279
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