Hi folks,
Very happy to see this discussion happening.
I work on the EveryPolitician project [0] and for several years, we have been mapping official IDs to Wikidata IDs. We have probably half the national legislators in the world mapped this way, and many of the ones we’re missing are because we don’t believe the people have Wikidata items yet.
We’d be happy to make the mappings we have available to the Wikidata community but the relevant properties for official identifiers only exist for a handful of countries at the moment[1].
EveryPolitician is currently funded by WMF for a related project [2] to find ways to improve the quality of data about politicians in Wikidata. As part of this project, our plan was to work with in-country partners on a case-by-case basis to get these properties created, but in light of this discussion perhaps we should explore creating many more of them in bulk more quickly? Suggestions welcome.
Lucy
[0] http://everypolitician.org/
[1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Parliaments#For_members_o...
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/EveryPolitician
Interesting! I noticed that suddenly a lot more politicians were showing up in my queries - have you been adding the occupation=politician property? I believe politicians are severely underrepresented on Wikipedia projects (except for the top people in the news) so if you have good metadata, then yes, it would probably be useful to do a data upload. One caveat is that for non-English countries, you need the descriptions and labels for any new items in the native language, or else I think we will only end up with doubles in the long run. I am not sure if there is any specific projects per country-related Wikipedia (I mean like France-French Wikipedia, etc) working on politicians, but otherwise you can try to get them active.
On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Lucy Chambers lucy@mysociety.org wrote:
Hi folks,
Very happy to see this discussion happening.
I work on the EveryPolitician project [0] and for several years, we have been mapping official IDs to Wikidata IDs. We have probably half the national legislators in the world mapped this way, and many of the ones we’re missing are because we don’t believe the people have Wikidata items yet.
We’d be happy to make the mappings we have available to the Wikidata community but the relevant properties for official identifiers only exist for a handful of countries at the moment[1].
EveryPolitician is currently funded by WMF for a related project [2] to find ways to improve the quality of data about politicians in Wikidata. As part of this project, our plan was to work with in-country partners on a case-by-case basis to get these properties created, but in light of this discussion perhaps we should explore creating many more of them in bulk more quickly? Suggestions welcome.
Lucy
[0] http://everypolitician.org/
[1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_ Parliaments#For_members_of_parliament
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/EveryPolitician
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Hoi, I understand the tendency to have English labels for items seen as important. However, there are bots who add labels to many, many languages as the labels tend to be the same. In my opinion we should encourage the inclusion of information. Yes, we may get duplicates but having the data early and being able to expand on them early is of more consequence.
At this time I am adding Dutch people who won literary awards. I add them in Dutch. There is more relevancy for them in this way. Thanks, GerardM
On 8 September 2017 at 18:33, Jane Darnell jane023@gmail.com wrote:
Interesting! I noticed that suddenly a lot more politicians were showing up in my queries - have you been adding the occupation=politician property? I believe politicians are severely underrepresented on Wikipedia projects (except for the top people in the news) so if you have good metadata, then yes, it would probably be useful to do a data upload. One caveat is that for non-English countries, you need the descriptions and labels for any new items in the native language, or else I think we will only end up with doubles in the long run. I am not sure if there is any specific projects per country-related Wikipedia (I mean like France-French Wikipedia, etc) working on politicians, but otherwise you can try to get them active.
On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Lucy Chambers lucy@mysociety.org wrote:
Hi folks,
Very happy to see this discussion happening.
I work on the EveryPolitician project [0] and for several years, we have been mapping official IDs to Wikidata IDs. We have probably half the national legislators in the world mapped this way, and many of the ones we’re missing are because we don’t believe the people have Wikidata items yet.
We’d be happy to make the mappings we have available to the Wikidata community but the relevant properties for official identifiers only exist for a handful of countries at the moment[1].
EveryPolitician is currently funded by WMF for a related project [2] to find ways to improve the quality of data about politicians in Wikidata. As part of this project, our plan was to work with in-country partners on a case-by-case basis to get these properties created, but in light of this discussion perhaps we should explore creating many more of them in bulk more quickly? Suggestions welcome.
Lucy
[0] http://everypolitician.org/
[1] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Parliamen ts#For_members_of_parliament
[2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/EveryPolitician
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Hi Jane and Gerard,
Thanks for the suggestions! Labels are definitely a very important consideration - will have a think about this.
On your questions, Jane, the people we've been working with have increasingly been adding quite a lot of "occupation:politician" statements, and even more specific things, like P39 statements indicating actual roles. Let me know if you want to know more :)
Thanks all for perspectives so far, keep 'em coming and hopefully we'll be able to get something in motion along these lines before too long!
L