Dear Wikidatians,
Before porting World University and School ( http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/World_University - like Wikipedia with MIT OCW) to WikiData, I'd like to learn of wikis which work on obscure handheld browsers, particularly for older internet phones in the developing/emerging world.
For example, Wikipedia doesn't work on my Palm Treo mobile phone using Palm OS 4.0. For WUaS to be helpful as wiki to all 3000-8000 languages, easy usage on all or many older mobile phone browsers will be key.
Does anyone know of a list of diverse wikis I can try on my old, internet mobile Palm Treo OS phone (at least as readable as New York Time's articles, which aren't wiki, on my Palm OS), which might in turn work with WikiData, WikiBase and SemanticWiki?
WUaS is planning for ALL ~200 countries and 3,000-8,000 languages, as wiki.
Thanks.
All the best, Scott
Hi Scott -
Here's data on mobile pageviews by OS and continent (top 3 per continent). Go to http://mobithinking.com/mobile-marketing-tools/latest-mobile-stats, search on "Proportion of global Web pageviews from mobile devices, by region, in Jan 2011 and Jan 2012".
I suspect that older OSs that didn't make the top three (and Blackberry) are going the way of the dodo.
Will WikiData work with OLPC machines?
Gantt Galloway, PharmD
Senior Scientist, Addiction & Pharmacology Research Laboratory California Pacific Medical Center Research Institute 3555 Cesar Chavez Street San Francisco, CA 94110 (415) 641-3370
fax: (415) 641-3380
On May 31, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Scott MacLeod wrote:
Dear Wikidatians,
Before porting World University and School (http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/World_University - like Wikipedia with MIT OCW) to WikiData, I'd like to learn of wikis which work on obscure handheld browsers, particularly for older internet phones in the developing/emerging world.
For example, Wikipedia doesn't work on my Palm Treo mobile phone using Palm OS 4.0. For WUaS to be helpful as wiki to all 3000-8000 languages, easy usage on all or many older mobile phone browsers will be key.
Does anyone know of a list of diverse wikis I can try on my old, internet mobile Palm Treo OS phone (at least as readable as New York Time's articles, which aren't wiki, on my Palm OS), which might in turn work with WikiData, WikiBase and SemanticWiki?
WUaS is planning for ALL ~200 countries and 3,000-8,000 languages, as wiki.
Thanks.
All the best, Scott
--
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-- World University and School (like Wikipedia with MIT Open Course Ware)
http://worlduniversityandschool.blogspot.com/
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/World_University
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Thanks, Gantt, and WikiDataians,
I'll look more carefully at mobile data web site you sent - http://mobithinking.com/mobile-marketing-tools/latest-mobile-stats - Gantt. In World University and School's planning, especially for the developing / emerging world / all 3000-8000 languages / and all ~200 countries, I'd like to see similar mobile-usage data informed by a fair amount of on-the-ground research, partly in One Laptop per Child (OLPC) areas, but also widely elsewhere. I'd hypothesize that the varieties of mobile internet phone usage, and their related browsers, is large and diverse, and probably somewhat predictable into the '5 year future,' based on the past. Which ones to plan for is an interesting question?
WUaS is seeking to code for / create a Wiki 'front end' which reaches a very wide variety of / almost all handheld browsers and end users, for open wiki teaching and learning, and as archive, plus much more, for all languages at this world university (WUaS).
Do WikiDataians know of other mobile internet phone usage statistics, across 200 countries +? And what, for example, does Google (which works on my handheld's Palm operating system) target, mobile-wise, as policy? Google doesn't develop many wikis - editable web pages - that I'm aware of; I do appreciate Google's excellence and thoughtfulness in programming, however. (WUaS is planning an universal translator, building on Google Translate, Sugar Labs' Translator, plus others - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/WUaS_Universal_Translator).
Gantt, WikiData is the 'back end' for the 'front end' of interactive, editable web pages, so it should work on OLPCs where they are connected to the internet. Sorry to get back to you with this delay - my computer was inoperable from Friday evening until just yesterday.
Talk with you Saturday at open, hour-long, WUaS business meeting ( http://worlduniversityandschool.blogspot.com/search/label/Business%20Meeting), if not before? All are welcome to WUaS business meeting ... it's the current decision-making meeting of World University and School.
Best, Scott
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Galloway, Gantt < gallowayg@pharmacy.ucsf.edu> wrote:
Hi Scott -
Here's data on mobile pageviews by OS and continent (top 3 per continent). Go to http://mobithinking.com/mobile-marketing-tools/latest-mobile-stats, search on "Proportion of global Web pageviews from mobile devices, by region, in Jan 2011 and Jan 2012".
I suspect that older OSs that didn't make the top three (and Blackberry) are going the way of the dodo.
Will WikiData work with OLPC machines?
Gantt Galloway, PharmD
Senior Scientist, Addiction & Pharmacology Research Laboratory California Pacific Medical Center Research Institute 3555 Cesar Chavez Street San Francisco, CA 94110 (415) 641-3370
fax: (415) 641-3380
On May 31, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Scott MacLeod wrote:
Dear Wikidatians,
Before porting World University and School (
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/World_University - like Wikipedia with MIT OCW) to WikiData, I'd like to learn of wikis which work on obscure handheld browsers, particularly for older internet phones in the developing/emerging world.
For example, Wikipedia doesn't work on my Palm Treo mobile phone using
Palm OS 4.0. For WUaS to be helpful as wiki to all 3000-8000 languages, easy usage on all or many older mobile phone browsers will be key.
Does anyone know of a list of diverse wikis I can try on my old,
internet mobile Palm Treo OS phone (at least as readable as New York Time's
articles, which aren't wiki, on my Palm OS), which might in turn work
with WikiData, WikiBase and SemanticWiki?
WUaS is planning for ALL ~200 countries and 3,000-8,000 languages, as
wiki.
Thanks.
All the best, Scott
--
Scott MacLeod Founder & President
-- World University and School (like Wikipedia with MIT Open Course Ware)
http://worlduniversityandschool.blogspot.com/
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/World_University
P.O. Box 442, (86 Ridgecrest Road), Canyon, CA 94516
415 480 4577 worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com Skype: scottm100
Google + main, WUaS page:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/108179352492243955816/108179352492243955816/po...
Please contribute, and invite friends to contribute, tax deductibly, via
PayPal and credit card:
http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.htm
World University and School is a 501 (c) (3) tax-exempt educational
organization.
World University and School is sending you this because of your interest
in free, online, higher education. If you don't want to receive these, please reply with 'remove' in the subject line. Thank you.
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Scott MacLeod worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com wrote:
Do WikiDataians know of other mobile internet phone usage statistics, across 200 countries +?
I do work on this area for Wikimedia, so I guess I would be the one to ask. Some information on what is coming to the Wikimedia servers (mostly Wikipedia, of course) is shown at http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportDevices.htm.
Andre, and WikiDataians,
Thanks, Andre ... How does/will Wikipedia make its decisions as to what mobile browsers to code for in the future - especially vis-a-vis this new and impressive WikiData 'back end' database, and in all languages and countries? My Palm OS on handheld has never worked with Wikipedia, for example, and I could see it being logical for mobile Wikipedia - m.wikipedia.org - to work on all mobile browsers, or almost all.
And World University and School would like also to begin to develop a comprehensive list of mobile-internet-browsers-for-wiki to begin to code for, in our WUaS planning process. Do you know of such lists, perhaps in other langauges, for example?
Over time, World University and School would also begin to generate data on this and related topics, perhaps in WikiData. Let's stay in touch about this.
I'm glad we're focusing on this further, and thanks.
Scott
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Andre Engels andreengels@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Scott MacLeod worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com wrote:
Do WikiDataians know of other mobile internet phone usage statistics,
across
200 countries +?
I do work on this area for Wikimedia, so I guess I would be the one to ask. Some information on what is coming to the Wikimedia servers (mostly Wikipedia, of course) is shown at http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportDevices.htm.
-- André Engels, andreengels@gmail.com
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Hello,
On 2012-06-07 01:51, Andre Engels wrote:
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Scott MacLeod worlduniversityandschool@gmail.com wrote:
Do WikiDataians know of other mobile internet phone usage statistics, across 200 countries +?
I do work on this area for Wikimedia, so I guess I would be the one to ask. Some information on what is coming to the Wikimedia servers (mostly Wikipedia, of course) is shown at http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportDevices.htm.
I always use this page: http://gs.statcounter.com/. It is more useful to find out the Browser usage for a specific country.
Marco
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Marco Fleckinger marco.fleckinger@gmail.com wrote:
I always use this page: http://gs.statcounter.com/. It is more useful to find out the Browser usage for a specific country.
For that there also is Wikimedia data recently, at http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportCountryBrowser.htm
Hallo,
Andre Engels andreengels@gmail.com schrieb:
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Marco Fleckinger marco.fleckinger@gmail.com wrote:
I always use this page: http://gs.statcounter.com/. It is more useful
to
find out the Browser usage for a specific country.
For that there also is Wikimedia data recently, at http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportCountryBrowser.htm
I didn't know that. Of course this is more useful for Wikimedia data.
Marco
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Marco Fleckinger marco.fleckinger@gmail.com wrote:
Hallo,
Andre Engels andreengels@gmail.com schrieb:
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Marco Fleckinger marco.fleckinger@gmail.com wrote:
I always use this page: http://gs.statcounter.com/. It is more useful
to
find out the Browser usage for a specific country.
For that there also is Wikimedia data recently, at http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportCountryBrowser.htm
I didn't know that. Of course this is more useful for Wikimedia data.
That's no surprise - those are reports that have been included only two weeks or so ago.
Hey folks :)
This is getting a bit off-topic. It'd be great if you could discuss this on the mailing lists that have been mentioned for this. Thanks!
Cheers Lydia
On 2012-06-07 14:32, Andre Engels wrote:
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Marco Fleckinger marco.fleckinger@gmail.com wrote:
Hallo,
Andre Engelsandreengels@gmail.com schrieb:
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Marco Fleckinger marco.fleckinger@gmail.com wrote:
I always use this page: http://gs.statcounter.com/. It is more useful
to
find out the Browser usage for a specific country.
For that there also is Wikimedia data recently, at http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportCountryBrowser.htm
I didn't know that. Of course this is more useful for Wikimedia data.
That's no surprise - those are reports that have been included only two weeks or so ago.
Sorry, yes Lydia, this is getting off-topic, may one final quesion is allowed: Is there something like a newsletter-mailing-list where all new ideas, projects, etc. are meantioned?