Hello all,
After several years discussing about it, and one year of development and discussion with the communities, the development team has now released the first version of lexicographical data support on Wikidata https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data.
Since the start of Wikidata in 2012, the multilingual knowledge base was mainly focused on concepts: Q-items are related to a thing or an idea, not to the word describing it. Starting now, Wikidata stores a new type of data: words, phrases and sentences, in many languages, described in many languages. This information will be stored in new types of entities, called Lexemes, Forms and Senses. It will allow editors to describe precisely all words in all languages, and will be reusable, just like the whole content of Wikidata, by multiple tools and queries, everything that the community creates to play with words. Lexicographical data can be reused inside and outside the Wikimedia projects, and can provide support for Wiktionary. The first release
A new namespace and several new entity types have been created in order to model words and phrases. If you’re new to this project, you can learn more by looking at the documentation https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation, briefly describing the data model and the interface. The technical structure is set, but the editors remain free to model and organize data as they prefer, with the usual open discussions and community processes that we apply on Wikidata. Some discussions about new properties https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes to create have already started: if you want to be involved in the early stage of the project to shape it, please participate!
Please note that the version that is now deployed is a first experiment, that will be continuously improved in the future. Some features are missing, some bugs may certainly occur. Here are the features that are included in the first release:
- Add, edit and delete Lexemes, Forms, statements, qualifiers, references - Link between the different entity types (Item to Lexeme, Form to Item, etc.) - Entity suggestion when adding a property or a value
And the following features will not be included in the first version, but are planned for the future:
- Find Lexemes and Forms via Special:Search - RDF support (which also means: the ability to query it with query.wikidata.org) - Support for Senses - Merging of Lexemes - Including the data on other Wikimedia projects, such as Wiktionary
How to try it?
The features described above are now deployed on Wikidata.org. Here are some suggestions of what you can do to explore this new territory:
- If you’re not familiar with the structure of Lexemes, have a look at the documentation https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation - Look at what is already existing https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=146. Please note that Special:Search and the search bar on the top right corner of pages is not supporting Lexemes yet. We’re working on this. - Create a new Lexeme with Special:NewLexeme https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:NewLexeme - If a property that you need is missing, you can suggest it here https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes - Discuss about how to model words and ask questions on Wikidata talk:Lexicographical data - Report bugs or issues that you may encounter: either on the talk page or on Phabricator, if you’re comfortable using it (create a task, add the tag Lexicographical data, and add Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE) as a subscriber)
About mass imports and tools
We kindly ask you to *not plan any mass import from any source for the moment*. There are several reasons behind that: first of all, like mentioned above, the release is a first version and we need to observe how our system reacts to the manual edits before starting considering automatic ones. The system may not be ready for big massive imports at the beginning. Second reason is legal. Lexicographical data in Wikidata is released under CC0, and the responsibility of each editor is to make sure that the data they will add is compatible with CC0. For more information, you can have a look at the advice of WMF Legal team https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Lexicographical_Data. Finally, we strongly encourage you to discuss with the communities before considering any import from the Wiktionaries. Wiktionary editors have been putting a lot of efforts during years to build definitions, and we should be respectful of this work, and discuss with them to find common solutions to work on lexicographical data and enjoy the use of it together.
We also suggest you to wait a bit before building tools or scripts on the top of lexicographical data. The interface and its API are probably going to evolve during the next months, and the system may not be stable enough to support such tools. We will inform you as soon as it will be possible. Next steps
After this first release, some improvements will be made on a very regular basis (new deployments every week). Once you tried playing with the new data, feel free to give us feedback. We’re looking especially to know what are the most important features for you to be worked on next.
- What did you experiment while editing lexicographical data? What went wrong or was unexpected? - What bugs or troubles during the process did you encounter? - What are the features that are, in your opinion, the most important? Which one should we work on next?
If you’re interested in following the discussions and further announcements about lexicographical data, I encourage you to follow Wikidata:Lexicographical data https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data and its talk page, where we will discuss about how to organize and structure data, new features to be added, ideas of tools and queries, and a lot of other things.
Additional note: with this new kind of data enabled on Wikidata, we expect some new editors to get interest in it, edit Lexemes, suggest properties or ask questions. They may not be familiar with all of our community processes and our ways to organize content. They will need help and support as well as links to useful resources to understand how the Wikidata community works. I hope that we will all be kind and patient, both with other editors and with the software that may not work exactly as we want it to at the beginning :)
Thanks to the people who tested the model and the interface before the release, who showed support and curiosity about lexicographical data on Wikidata!
If you have any question or idea, feel free to write on Wikidata talk:Lexicographical data or contact me.
On Wed, 23 May 2018 at 12:34 Léa Lacroix lea.lacroix@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hello all,
After several years discussing about it, and one year of development and discussion with the communities, the development team has now released the first version of lexicographical data support on Wikidata https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data.
This is brilliant to see. Congratulations to the development team!
J.
Hoi, Sorry the Q-number refers to a thing or an idea absolutely. The labels don't; they describe the idea and with the possible exception of special cases like templates lists and categories these labels can be associated with lexical information. It is vitally important to have lexical information about them because they will spark the development of better use of the information inherently available in the Q-items. Thanks, GerardM
On 23 May 2018 at 14:33, Léa Lacroix lea.lacroix@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hello all,
After several years discussing about it, and one year of development and discussion with the communities, the development team has now released the first version of lexicographical data support on Wikidata https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data.
Since the start of Wikidata in 2012, the multilingual knowledge base was mainly focused on concepts: Q-items are related to a thing or an idea, not to the word describing it. Starting now, Wikidata stores a new type of data: words, phrases and sentences, in many languages, described in many languages. This information will be stored in new types of entities, called Lexemes, Forms and Senses. It will allow editors to describe precisely all words in all languages, and will be reusable, just like the whole content of Wikidata, by multiple tools and queries, everything that the community creates to play with words. Lexicographical data can be reused inside and outside the Wikimedia projects, and can provide support for Wiktionary. The first release
A new namespace and several new entity types have been created in order to model words and phrases. If you’re new to this project, you can learn more by looking at the documentation https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation, briefly describing the data model and the interface. The technical structure is set, but the editors remain free to model and organize data as they prefer, with the usual open discussions and community processes that we apply on Wikidata. Some discussions about new properties https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes to create have already started: if you want to be involved in the early stage of the project to shape it, please participate!
Please note that the version that is now deployed is a first experiment, that will be continuously improved in the future. Some features are missing, some bugs may certainly occur. Here are the features that are included in the first release:
- Add, edit and delete Lexemes, Forms, statements, qualifiers,
references
- Link between the different entity types (Item to Lexeme, Form to
Item, etc.)
- Entity suggestion when adding a property or a value
And the following features will not be included in the first version, but are planned for the future:
- Find Lexemes and Forms via Special:Search
- RDF support (which also means: the ability to query it with
query.wikidata.org)
- Support for Senses
- Merging of Lexemes
- Including the data on other Wikimedia projects, such as Wiktionary
How to try it?
The features described above are now deployed on Wikidata.org. Here are some suggestions of what you can do to explore this new territory:
- If you’re not familiar with the structure of Lexemes, have a look at the
documentation https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation
- Look at what is already existing
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=146. Please note that Special:Search and the search bar on the top right corner of pages is not supporting Lexemes yet. We’re working on this.
- Create a new Lexeme with Special:NewLexeme
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:NewLexeme
- If a property that you need is missing, you can suggest it here
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes
- Discuss about how to model words and ask questions on Wikidata
talk:Lexicographical data
- Report bugs or issues that you may encounter: either on the talk page
or on Phabricator, if you’re comfortable using it (create a task, add the tag Lexicographical data, and add Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE) as a subscriber)
About mass imports and tools
We kindly ask you to *not plan any mass import from any source for the moment*. There are several reasons behind that: first of all, like mentioned above, the release is a first version and we need to observe how our system reacts to the manual edits before starting considering automatic ones. The system may not be ready for big massive imports at the beginning. Second reason is legal. Lexicographical data in Wikidata is released under CC0, and the responsibility of each editor is to make sure that the data they will add is compatible with CC0. For more information, you can have a look at the advice of WMF Legal team https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Lexicographical_Data. Finally, we strongly encourage you to discuss with the communities before considering any import from the Wiktionaries. Wiktionary editors have been putting a lot of efforts during years to build definitions, and we should be respectful of this work, and discuss with them to find common solutions to work on lexicographical data and enjoy the use of it together.
We also suggest you to wait a bit before building tools or scripts on the top of lexicographical data. The interface and its API are probably going to evolve during the next months, and the system may not be stable enough to support such tools. We will inform you as soon as it will be possible. Next steps
After this first release, some improvements will be made on a very regular basis (new deployments every week). Once you tried playing with the new data, feel free to give us feedback. We’re looking especially to know what are the most important features for you to be worked on next.
- What did you experiment while editing lexicographical data? What
went wrong or was unexpected?
- What bugs or troubles during the process did you encounter?
- What are the features that are, in your opinion, the most important?
Which one should we work on next?
If you’re interested in following the discussions and further announcements about lexicographical data, I encourage you to follow Wikidata:Lexicographical data https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data and its talk page, where we will discuss about how to organize and structure data, new features to be added, ideas of tools and queries, and a lot of other things.
Additional note: with this new kind of data enabled on Wikidata, we expect some new editors to get interest in it, edit Lexemes, suggest properties or ask questions. They may not be familiar with all of our community processes and our ways to organize content. They will need help and support as well as links to useful resources to understand how the Wikidata community works. I hope that we will all be kind and patient, both with other editors and with the software that may not work exactly as we want it to at the beginning :)
Thanks to the people who tested the model and the interface before the release, who showed support and curiosity about lexicographical data on Wikidata!
If you have any question or idea, feel free to write on Wikidata talk:Lexicographical data or contact me. -- Léa Lacroix Project Manager Community Communication for Wikidata
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Kudos to the development team. It's great to see it is finally in production. There is still a long way to go to have a more friendly user interface, but Q17117425 :)
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:12 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, Sorry the Q-number refers to a thing or an idea absolutely. The labels don't; they describe the idea and with the possible exception of special cases like templates lists and categories these labels can be associated with lexical information. It is vitally important to have lexical information about them because they will spark the development of better use of the information inherently available in the Q-items. Thanks, GerardM
On 23 May 2018 at 14:33, Léa Lacroix lea.lacroix@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hello all,
After several years discussing about it, and one year of development and discussion with the communities, the development team has now released the first version of lexicographical data support on Wikidata https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data.
Since the start of Wikidata in 2012, the multilingual knowledge base was mainly focused on concepts: Q-items are related to a thing or an idea, not to the word describing it. Starting now, Wikidata stores a new type of data: words, phrases and sentences, in many languages, described in many languages. This information will be stored in new types of entities, called Lexemes, Forms and Senses. It will allow editors to describe precisely all words in all languages, and will be reusable, just like the whole content of Wikidata, by multiple tools and queries, everything that the community creates to play with words. Lexicographical data can be reused inside and outside the Wikimedia projects, and can provide support for Wiktionary. The first release
A new namespace and several new entity types have been created in order to model words and phrases. If you’re new to this project, you can learn more by looking at the documentation https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation, briefly describing the data model and the interface. The technical structure is set, but the editors remain free to model and organize data as they prefer, with the usual open discussions and community processes that we apply on Wikidata. Some discussions about new properties https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes to create have already started: if you want to be involved in the early stage of the project to shape it, please participate!
Please note that the version that is now deployed is a first experiment, that will be continuously improved in the future. Some features are missing, some bugs may certainly occur. Here are the features that are included in the first release:
- Add, edit and delete Lexemes, Forms, statements, qualifiers,
references
- Link between the different entity types (Item to Lexeme, Form to
Item, etc.)
- Entity suggestion when adding a property or a value
And the following features will not be included in the first version, but are planned for the future:
- Find Lexemes and Forms via Special:Search
- RDF support (which also means: the ability to query it with
query.wikidata.org)
- Support for Senses
- Merging of Lexemes
- Including the data on other Wikimedia projects, such as Wiktionary
How to try it?
The features described above are now deployed on Wikidata.org. Here are some suggestions of what you can do to explore this new territory:
- If you’re not familiar with the structure of Lexemes, have a look
at the documentation https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation
- Look at what is already existing
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=146. Please note that Special:Search and the search bar on the top right corner of pages is not supporting Lexemes yet. We’re working on this.
- Create a new Lexeme with Special:NewLexeme
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:NewLexeme
- If a property that you need is missing, you can suggest it here
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes
- Discuss about how to model words and ask questions on Wikidata
talk:Lexicographical data
- Report bugs or issues that you may encounter: either on the talk
page or on Phabricator, if you’re comfortable using it (create a task, add the tag Lexicographical data, and add Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE) as a subscriber)
About mass imports and tools
We kindly ask you to *not plan any mass import from any source for the moment*. There are several reasons behind that: first of all, like mentioned above, the release is a first version and we need to observe how our system reacts to the manual edits before starting considering automatic ones. The system may not be ready for big massive imports at the beginning. Second reason is legal. Lexicographical data in Wikidata is released under CC0, and the responsibility of each editor is to make sure that the data they will add is compatible with CC0. For more information, you can have a look at the advice of WMF Legal team https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Lexicographical_Data. Finally, we strongly encourage you to discuss with the communities before considering any import from the Wiktionaries. Wiktionary editors have been putting a lot of efforts during years to build definitions, and we should be respectful of this work, and discuss with them to find common solutions to work on lexicographical data and enjoy the use of it together.
We also suggest you to wait a bit before building tools or scripts on the top of lexicographical data. The interface and its API are probably going to evolve during the next months, and the system may not be stable enough to support such tools. We will inform you as soon as it will be possible. Next steps
After this first release, some improvements will be made on a very regular basis (new deployments every week). Once you tried playing with the new data, feel free to give us feedback. We’re looking especially to know what are the most important features for you to be worked on next.
- What did you experiment while editing lexicographical data? What
went wrong or was unexpected?
- What bugs or troubles during the process did you encounter?
- What are the features that are, in your opinion, the most
important? Which one should we work on next?
If you’re interested in following the discussions and further announcements about lexicographical data, I encourage you to follow Wikidata:Lexicographical data https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data and its talk page, where we will discuss about how to organize and structure data, new features to be added, ideas of tools and queries, and a lot of other things.
Additional note: with this new kind of data enabled on Wikidata, we expect some new editors to get interest in it, edit Lexemes, suggest properties or ask questions. They may not be familiar with all of our community processes and our ways to organize content. They will need help and support as well as links to useful resources to understand how the Wikidata community works. I hope that we will all be kind and patient, both with other editors and with the software that may not work exactly as we want it to at the beginning :)
Thanks to the people who tested the model and the interface before the release, who showed support and curiosity about lexicographical data on Wikidata!
If you have any question or idea, feel free to write on Wikidata talk:Lexicographical data or contact me. -- Léa Lacroix Project Manager Community Communication for Wikidata
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Congratulations on releasing this!
I think the usefulness will improve after releasing Senses, but it is good that we have something to play with and start suggesting improvements.
Regards, Micru
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:25 PM, Eran Rosenthal eranroz89@gmail.com wrote:
Kudos to the development team. It's great to see it is finally in production. There is still a long way to go to have a more friendly user interface, but Q17117425 :)
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:12 PM, Gerard Meijssen < gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi, Sorry the Q-number refers to a thing or an idea absolutely. The labels don't; they describe the idea and with the possible exception of special cases like templates lists and categories these labels can be associated with lexical information. It is vitally important to have lexical information about them because they will spark the development of better use of the information inherently available in the Q-items. Thanks, GerardM
On 23 May 2018 at 14:33, Léa Lacroix lea.lacroix@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hello all,
After several years discussing about it, and one year of development and discussion with the communities, the development team has now released the first version of lexicographical data support on Wikidata https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data.
Since the start of Wikidata in 2012, the multilingual knowledge base was mainly focused on concepts: Q-items are related to a thing or an idea, not to the word describing it. Starting now, Wikidata stores a new type of data: words, phrases and sentences, in many languages, described in many languages. This information will be stored in new types of entities, called Lexemes, Forms and Senses. It will allow editors to describe precisely all words in all languages, and will be reusable, just like the whole content of Wikidata, by multiple tools and queries, everything that the community creates to play with words. Lexicographical data can be reused inside and outside the Wikimedia projects, and can provide support for Wiktionary. The first release
A new namespace and several new entity types have been created in order to model words and phrases. If you’re new to this project, you can learn more by looking at the documentation https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation, briefly describing the data model and the interface. The technical structure is set, but the editors remain free to model and organize data as they prefer, with the usual open discussions and community processes that we apply on Wikidata. Some discussions about new properties https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes to create have already started: if you want to be involved in the early stage of the project to shape it, please participate!
Please note that the version that is now deployed is a first experiment, that will be continuously improved in the future. Some features are missing, some bugs may certainly occur. Here are the features that are included in the first release:
- Add, edit and delete Lexemes, Forms, statements, qualifiers,
references
- Link between the different entity types (Item to Lexeme, Form to
Item, etc.)
- Entity suggestion when adding a property or a value
And the following features will not be included in the first version, but are planned for the future:
- Find Lexemes and Forms via Special:Search
- RDF support (which also means: the ability to query it with
query.wikidata.org)
- Support for Senses
- Merging of Lexemes
- Including the data on other Wikimedia projects, such as Wiktionary
How to try it?
The features described above are now deployed on Wikidata.org. Here are some suggestions of what you can do to explore this new territory:
- If you’re not familiar with the structure of Lexemes, have a look
at the documentation https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation
- Look at what is already existing
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=146. Please note that Special:Search and the search bar on the top right corner of pages is not supporting Lexemes yet. We’re working on this.
- Create a new Lexeme with Special:NewLexeme
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:NewLexeme
- If a property that you need is missing, you can suggest it here
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes
- Discuss about how to model words and ask questions on Wikidata
talk:Lexicographical data
- Report bugs or issues that you may encounter: either on the talk
page or on Phabricator, if you’re comfortable using it (create a task, add the tag Lexicographical data, and add Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE) as a subscriber)
About mass imports and tools
We kindly ask you to *not plan any mass import from any source for the moment*. There are several reasons behind that: first of all, like mentioned above, the release is a first version and we need to observe how our system reacts to the manual edits before starting considering automatic ones. The system may not be ready for big massive imports at the beginning. Second reason is legal. Lexicographical data in Wikidata is released under CC0, and the responsibility of each editor is to make sure that the data they will add is compatible with CC0. For more information, you can have a look at the advice of WMF Legal team https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Lexicographical_Data. Finally, we strongly encourage you to discuss with the communities before considering any import from the Wiktionaries. Wiktionary editors have been putting a lot of efforts during years to build definitions, and we should be respectful of this work, and discuss with them to find common solutions to work on lexicographical data and enjoy the use of it together.
We also suggest you to wait a bit before building tools or scripts on the top of lexicographical data. The interface and its API are probably going to evolve during the next months, and the system may not be stable enough to support such tools. We will inform you as soon as it will be possible. Next steps
After this first release, some improvements will be made on a very regular basis (new deployments every week). Once you tried playing with the new data, feel free to give us feedback. We’re looking especially to know what are the most important features for you to be worked on next.
- What did you experiment while editing lexicographical data? What
went wrong or was unexpected?
- What bugs or troubles during the process did you encounter?
- What are the features that are, in your opinion, the most
important? Which one should we work on next?
If you’re interested in following the discussions and further announcements about lexicographical data, I encourage you to follow Wikidata:Lexicographical data https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data and its talk page, where we will discuss about how to organize and structure data, new features to be added, ideas of tools and queries, and a lot of other things.
Additional note: with this new kind of data enabled on Wikidata, we expect some new editors to get interest in it, edit Lexemes, suggest properties or ask questions. They may not be familiar with all of our community processes and our ways to organize content. They will need help and support as well as links to useful resources to understand how the Wikidata community works. I hope that we will all be kind and patient, both with other editors and with the software that may not work exactly as we want it to at the beginning :)
Thanks to the people who tested the model and the interface before the release, who showed support and curiosity about lexicographical data on Wikidata!
If you have any question or idea, feel free to write on Wikidata talk:Lexicographical data or contact me. -- Léa Lacroix Project Manager Community Communication for Wikidata
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
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THANK YOU! I've been expecting this for so long.
@Eran: Q17117425 could made nice lexemes :P @Micru: even without senses, there is a lot of possible application (I'd love to have a spell-checker for Wikisource, no sense needed here).
Cheers, ~nicolas
2018-05-24 10:01 GMT+02:00 David Cuenca Tudela dacuetu@gmail.com:
Congratulations on releasing this!
I think the usefulness will improve after releasing Senses, but it is good that we have something to play with and start suggesting improvements.
Regards, Micru
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:25 PM, Eran Rosenthal eranroz89@gmail.com wrote:
Kudos to the development team. It's great to see it is finally in production. There is still a long way to go to have a more friendly user interface, but Q17117425 :)
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:12 PM, Gerard Meijssen < gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi, Sorry the Q-number refers to a thing or an idea absolutely. The labels don't; they describe the idea and with the possible exception of special cases like templates lists and categories these labels can be associated with lexical information. It is vitally important to have lexical information about them because they will spark the development of better use of the information inherently available in the Q-items. Thanks, GerardM
On 23 May 2018 at 14:33, Léa Lacroix lea.lacroix@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hello all,
After several years discussing about it, and one year of development and discussion with the communities, the development team has now released the first version of lexicographical data support on Wikidata https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data.
Since the start of Wikidata in 2012, the multilingual knowledge base was mainly focused on concepts: Q-items are related to a thing or an idea, not to the word describing it. Starting now, Wikidata stores a new type of data: words, phrases and sentences, in many languages, described in many languages. This information will be stored in new types of entities, called Lexemes, Forms and Senses. It will allow editors to describe precisely all words in all languages, and will be reusable, just like the whole content of Wikidata, by multiple tools and queries, everything that the community creates to play with words. Lexicographical data can be reused inside and outside the Wikimedia projects, and can provide support for Wiktionary. The first release
A new namespace and several new entity types have been created in order to model words and phrases. If you’re new to this project, you can learn more by looking at the documentation https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation, briefly describing the data model and the interface. The technical structure is set, but the editors remain free to model and organize data as they prefer, with the usual open discussions and community processes that we apply on Wikidata. Some discussions about new properties https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes to create have already started: if you want to be involved in the early stage of the project to shape it, please participate!
Please note that the version that is now deployed is a first experiment, that will be continuously improved in the future. Some features are missing, some bugs may certainly occur. Here are the features that are included in the first release:
- Add, edit and delete Lexemes, Forms, statements, qualifiers,
references
- Link between the different entity types (Item to Lexeme, Form to
Item, etc.)
- Entity suggestion when adding a property or a value
And the following features will not be included in the first version, but are planned for the future:
- Find Lexemes and Forms via Special:Search
- RDF support (which also means: the ability to query it with
query.wikidata.org)
- Support for Senses
- Merging of Lexemes
- Including the data on other Wikimedia projects, such as Wiktionary
How to try it?
The features described above are now deployed on Wikidata.org. Here are some suggestions of what you can do to explore this new territory:
- If you’re not familiar with the structure of Lexemes, have a look
at the documentation https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation
- Look at what is already existing
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=146. Please note that Special:Search and the search bar on the top right corner of pages is not supporting Lexemes yet. We’re working on this.
- Create a new Lexeme with Special:NewLexeme
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:NewLexeme
- If a property that you need is missing, you can suggest it here
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes
- Discuss about how to model words and ask questions on Wikidata
talk:Lexicographical data
- Report bugs or issues that you may encounter: either on the talk
page or on Phabricator, if you’re comfortable using it (create a task, add the tag Lexicographical data, and add Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE) as a subscriber)
About mass imports and tools
We kindly ask you to *not plan any mass import from any source for the moment*. There are several reasons behind that: first of all, like mentioned above, the release is a first version and we need to observe how our system reacts to the manual edits before starting considering automatic ones. The system may not be ready for big massive imports at the beginning. Second reason is legal. Lexicographical data in Wikidata is released under CC0, and the responsibility of each editor is to make sure that the data they will add is compatible with CC0. For more information, you can have a look at the advice of WMF Legal team https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Lexicographical_Data. Finally, we strongly encourage you to discuss with the communities before considering any import from the Wiktionaries. Wiktionary editors have been putting a lot of efforts during years to build definitions, and we should be respectful of this work, and discuss with them to find common solutions to work on lexicographical data and enjoy the use of it together.
We also suggest you to wait a bit before building tools or scripts on the top of lexicographical data. The interface and its API are probably going to evolve during the next months, and the system may not be stable enough to support such tools. We will inform you as soon as it will be possible. Next steps
After this first release, some improvements will be made on a very regular basis (new deployments every week). Once you tried playing with the new data, feel free to give us feedback. We’re looking especially to know what are the most important features for you to be worked on next.
- What did you experiment while editing lexicographical data? What
went wrong or was unexpected?
- What bugs or troubles during the process did you encounter?
- What are the features that are, in your opinion, the most
important? Which one should we work on next?
If you’re interested in following the discussions and further announcements about lexicographical data, I encourage you to follow Wikidata:Lexicographical data https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data and its talk page, where we will discuss about how to organize and structure data, new features to be added, ideas of tools and queries, and a lot of other things.
Additional note: with this new kind of data enabled on Wikidata, we expect some new editors to get interest in it, edit Lexemes, suggest properties or ask questions. They may not be familiar with all of our community processes and our ways to organize content. They will need help and support as well as links to useful resources to understand how the Wikidata community works. I hope that we will all be kind and patient, both with other editors and with the software that may not work exactly as we want it to at the beginning :)
Thanks to the people who tested the model and the interface before the release, who showed support and curiosity about lexicographical data on Wikidata!
If you have any question or idea, feel free to write on Wikidata talk:Lexicographical data or contact me. -- Léa Lacroix Project Manager Community Communication for Wikidata
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de
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I was too busy yesterday testing, and I forgot to share my love for your efforts. :) Today I have another lesson in which I'll talk about Wikidata, and I'll be sure to say that finally LD started! Thank you!
L.
Il gio 24 mag 2018, 10:19 Nicolas VIGNERON vigneron.nicolas@gmail.com ha scritto:
THANK YOU! I've been expecting this for so long.
@Eran: Q17117425 could made nice lexemes :P @Micru: even without senses, there is a lot of possible application (I'd love to have a spell-checker for Wikisource, no sense needed here).
Cheers, ~nicolas
2018-05-24 10:01 GMT+02:00 David Cuenca Tudela dacuetu@gmail.com:
Congratulations on releasing this!
I think the usefulness will improve after releasing Senses, but it is good that we have something to play with and start suggesting improvements.
Regards, Micru
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:25 PM, Eran Rosenthal eranroz89@gmail.com wrote:
Kudos to the development team. It's great to see it is finally in production. There is still a long way to go to have a more friendly user interface, but Q17117425 :)
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:12 PM, Gerard Meijssen < gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi, Sorry the Q-number refers to a thing or an idea absolutely. The labels don't; they describe the idea and with the possible exception of special cases like templates lists and categories these labels can be associated with lexical information. It is vitally important to have lexical information about them because they will spark the development of better use of the information inherently available in the Q-items. Thanks, GerardM
On 23 May 2018 at 14:33, Léa Lacroix lea.lacroix@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hello all,
After several years discussing about it, and one year of development and discussion with the communities, the development team has now released the first version of lexicographical data support on Wikidata https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data.
Since the start of Wikidata in 2012, the multilingual knowledge base was mainly focused on concepts: Q-items are related to a thing or an idea, not to the word describing it. Starting now, Wikidata stores a new type of data: words, phrases and sentences, in many languages, described in many languages. This information will be stored in new types of entities, called Lexemes, Forms and Senses. It will allow editors to describe precisely all words in all languages, and will be reusable, just like the whole content of Wikidata, by multiple tools and queries, everything that the community creates to play with words. Lexicographical data can be reused inside and outside the Wikimedia projects, and can provide support for Wiktionary. The first release
A new namespace and several new entity types have been created in order to model words and phrases. If you’re new to this project, you can learn more by looking at the documentation https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation, briefly describing the data model and the interface. The technical structure is set, but the editors remain free to model and organize data as they prefer, with the usual open discussions and community processes that we apply on Wikidata. Some discussions about new properties https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes to create have already started: if you want to be involved in the early stage of the project to shape it, please participate!
Please note that the version that is now deployed is a first experiment, that will be continuously improved in the future. Some features are missing, some bugs may certainly occur. Here are the features that are included in the first release:
- Add, edit and delete Lexemes, Forms, statements, qualifiers,
references
- Link between the different entity types (Item to Lexeme, Form to
Item, etc.)
- Entity suggestion when adding a property or a value
And the following features will not be included in the first version, but are planned for the future:
- Find Lexemes and Forms via Special:Search
- RDF support (which also means: the ability to query it with
query.wikidata.org)
- Support for Senses
- Merging of Lexemes
- Including the data on other Wikimedia projects, such as
Wiktionary
How to try it?
The features described above are now deployed on Wikidata.org. Here are some suggestions of what you can do to explore this new territory:
- If you’re not familiar with the structure of Lexemes, have a
look at the documentation https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation
- Look at what is already existing
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=146. Please note that Special:Search and the search bar on the top right corner of pages is not supporting Lexemes yet. We’re working on this.
- Create a new Lexeme with Special:NewLexeme
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:NewLexeme
- If a property that you need is missing, you can suggest it here
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes
- Discuss about how to model words and ask questions on Wikidata
talk:Lexicographical data
- Report bugs or issues that you may encounter: either on the talk
page or on Phabricator, if you’re comfortable using it (create a task, add the tag Lexicographical data, and add Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE) as a subscriber)
About mass imports and tools
We kindly ask you to *not plan any mass import from any source for the moment*. There are several reasons behind that: first of all, like mentioned above, the release is a first version and we need to observe how our system reacts to the manual edits before starting considering automatic ones. The system may not be ready for big massive imports at the beginning. Second reason is legal. Lexicographical data in Wikidata is released under CC0, and the responsibility of each editor is to make sure that the data they will add is compatible with CC0. For more information, you can have a look at the advice of WMF Legal team https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Lexicographical_Data. Finally, we strongly encourage you to discuss with the communities before considering any import from the Wiktionaries. Wiktionary editors have been putting a lot of efforts during years to build definitions, and we should be respectful of this work, and discuss with them to find common solutions to work on lexicographical data and enjoy the use of it together.
We also suggest you to wait a bit before building tools or scripts on the top of lexicographical data. The interface and its API are probably going to evolve during the next months, and the system may not be stable enough to support such tools. We will inform you as soon as it will be possible. Next steps
After this first release, some improvements will be made on a very regular basis (new deployments every week). Once you tried playing with the new data, feel free to give us feedback. We’re looking especially to know what are the most important features for you to be worked on next.
- What did you experiment while editing lexicographical data? What
went wrong or was unexpected?
- What bugs or troubles during the process did you encounter?
- What are the features that are, in your opinion, the most
important? Which one should we work on next?
If you’re interested in following the discussions and further announcements about lexicographical data, I encourage you to follow Wikidata:Lexicographical data https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data and its talk page, where we will discuss about how to organize and structure data, new features to be added, ideas of tools and queries, and a lot of other things.
Additional note: with this new kind of data enabled on Wikidata, we expect some new editors to get interest in it, edit Lexemes, suggest properties or ask questions. They may not be familiar with all of our community processes and our ways to organize content. They will need help and support as well as links to useful resources to understand how the Wikidata community works. I hope that we will all be kind and patient, both with other editors and with the software that may not work exactly as we want it to at the beginning :)
Thanks to the people who tested the model and the interface before the release, who showed support and curiosity about lexicographical data on Wikidata!
If you have any question or idea, feel free to write on Wikidata talk:Lexicographical data or contact me. -- Léa Lacroix Project Manager Community Communication for Wikidata
Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de
Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V.
Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/029/42207.
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Congratulations to all the team! This is just an awesome announcement. Good luck developing WikibaseLexeme. I just contributed with a lexeme, L870 [1], although I have to improve it yet.
I have one question: "baifo" is a word of the Spanish speaking in the Canary Islands (a dialect [2]). How could I specify this aspect? In this case I set Canarian Spanish (Q957764) [3] as language of the lexeme and in the language of the lemma I use just Spanish. But then, checking the lexeme I read "Spelling variant" where I use Spanish and "Language" where I use Canarian Spanish, so it is not correct, because the "Spelling variant" should be Canarian Spanish, but it is just a dialect and I only see "es-formal".
Any advice to improve and have a good item?
Regards, Iván
[1]: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Lexeme:L870 [2]: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q33384 [3]: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q957764
On 24/05/18 09:27, Luca Martinelli wrote:
I was too busy yesterday testing, and I forgot to share my love for your efforts. :) Today I have another lesson in which I'll talk about Wikidata, and I'll be sure to say that finally LD started! Thank you!
L.
Il gio 24 mag 2018, 10:19 Nicolas VIGNERON <vigneron.nicolas@gmail.com mailto:vigneron.nicolas@gmail.com> ha scritto:
THANK YOU! I've been expecting this for so long. @Eran: Q17117425 could made nice lexemes :P @Micru: even without senses, there is a lot of possible application (I'd love to have a spell-checker for Wikisource, no sense needed here). Cheers, ~nicolas 2018-05-24 10:01 GMT+02:00 David Cuenca Tudela <dacuetu@gmail.com <mailto:dacuetu@gmail.com>>: Congratulations on releasing this! I think the usefulness will improve after releasing Senses, but it is good that we have something to play with and start suggesting improvements. Regards, Micru On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:25 PM, Eran Rosenthal <eranroz89@gmail.com <mailto:eranroz89@gmail.com>> wrote: Kudos to the development team. It's great to see it is finally in production. There is still a long way to go to have a more friendly user interface, but Q17117425 :) On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:12 PM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com <mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com>> wrote: Hoi, Sorry the Q-number refers to a thing or an idea absolutely. The labels don't; they describe the idea and with the possible exception of special cases like templates lists and categories these labels can be associated with lexical information. It is vitally important to have lexical information about them because they will spark the development of better use of the information inherently available in the Q-items. Thanks, GerardM On 23 May 2018 at 14:33, Léa Lacroix <lea.lacroix@wikimedia.de <mailto:lea.lacroix@wikimedia.de>> wrote: Hello all, After several years discussing about it, and one year of development and discussion with the communities, the development team has now released the first version of lexicographical data support on Wikidata <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data>. Since the start of Wikidata in 2012, the multilingual knowledge base was mainly focused on concepts: Q-items are related to a thing or an idea, not to the word describing it. Starting now, Wikidata stores a new type of data: words, phrases and sentences, in many languages, described in many languages. This information will be stored in new types of entities, called Lexemes, Forms and Senses. It will allow editors to describe precisely all words in all languages, and will be reusable, just like the whole content of Wikidata, by multiple tools and queries, everything that the community creates to play with words. Lexicographical data can be reused inside and outside the Wikimedia projects, and can provide support for Wiktionary. The first release A new namespace and several new entity types have been created in order to model words and phrases. If you’re new to this project, you can learn more by looking at the documentation <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation>, briefly describing the data model and the interface. The technical structure is set, but the editors remain free to model and organize data as they prefer, with the usual open discussions and community processes that we apply on Wikidata. Some discussions about new properties <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes> to create have already started: if you want to be involved in the early stage of the project to shape it, please participate! Please note that the version that is now deployed is a first experiment, that will be continuously improved in the future. Some features are missing, some bugs may certainly occur. Here are the features that are included in the first release: * Add, edit and delete Lexemes, Forms, statements, qualifiers, references * Link between the different entity types (Item to Lexeme, Form to Item, etc.) * Entity suggestion when adding a property or a value And the following features will not be included in the first version, but are planned for the future: * Find Lexemes and Forms via Special:Search * RDF support (which also means: the ability to query it with query.wikidata.org <http://query.wikidata.org>) * Support for Senses * Merging of Lexemes * Including the data on other Wikimedia projects, such as Wiktionary How to try it? The features described above are now deployed on Wikidata.org. Here are some suggestions of what you can do to explore this new territory: * If you’re not familiar with the structure of Lexemes, have a look at the documentation <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data/Documentation> * Look at what is already existing <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=146>. Please note that Special:Search and the search bar on the top right corner of pages is not supporting Lexemes yet. We’re working on this. * Create a new Lexeme with Special:NewLexeme <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:NewLexeme> * If a property that you need is missing, you can suggest it here <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Lexemes> * Discuss about how to model words and ask questions on Wikidata talk:Lexicographical data * Report bugs or issues that you may encounter: either on the talk page or on Phabricator, if you’re comfortable using it (create a task, add the tag |Lexicographical data|, and add Lea_Lacroix_(WMDE) as a subscriber) About mass imports and tools We kindly ask you to *not plan any mass import from any source for the moment*. There are several reasons behind that: first of all, like mentioned above, the release is a first version and we need to observe how our system reacts to the manual edits before starting considering automatic ones. The system may not be ready for big massive imports at the beginning. Second reason is legal. Lexicographical data in Wikidata is released under CC0, and the responsibility of each editor is to make sure that the data they will add is compatible with CC0. For more information, you can have a look at the advice of WMF Legal team <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Lexicographical_Data>. Finally, we strongly encourage you to discuss with the communities before considering any import from the Wiktionaries. Wiktionary editors have been putting a lot of efforts during years to build definitions, and we should be respectful of this work, and discuss with them to find common solutions to work on lexicographical data and enjoy the use of it together. We also suggest you to wait a bit before building tools or scripts on the top of lexicographical data. The interface and its API are probably going to evolve during the next months, and the system may not be stable enough to support such tools. We will inform you as soon as it will be possible. Next steps After this first release, some improvements will be made on a very regular basis (new deployments every week). Once you tried playing with the new data, feel free to give us feedback. We’re looking especially to know what are the most important features for you to be worked on next. * What did you experiment while editing lexicographical data? What went wrong or was unexpected? * What bugs or troubles during the process did you encounter? * What are the features that are, in your opinion, the most important? Which one should we work on next? If you’re interested in following the discussions and further announcements about lexicographical data, I encourage you to follow Wikidata:Lexicographical data <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Lexicographical_data> and its talk page, where we will discuss about how to organize and structure data, new features to be added, ideas of tools and queries, and a lot of other things. Additional note: with this new kind of data enabled on Wikidata, we expect some new editors to get interest in it, edit Lexemes, suggest properties or ask questions. They may not be familiar with all of our community processes and our ways to organize content. They will need help and support as well as links to useful resources to understand how the Wikidata community works. I hope that we will all be kind and patient, both with other editors and with the software that may not work exactly as we want it to at the beginning :) Thanks to the people who tested the model and the interface before the release, who showed support and curiosity about lexicographical data on Wikidata! If you have any question or idea, feel free to write on Wikidata talk:Lexicographical data or contact me. -- Léa Lacroix Project Manager Community Communication for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. 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