I read that you are developint with scrum and I wonder who fulfills the Customer- and the User-Roles... In my opinion the customers are either the Foundation or the Wikipedia-Community. The User is definitely not the Foundation and i don't think it's only the Community, everybody uses the wikipedia and will use wikidata in one way or another. To satisfy the needs of your customers and users you should present them the (tested!) product at least after every sprint. This should be easy, because the product is a webservice that should be easy to deploy and easy to test. You should test it with strangers instead of only wikipedians because someone who is involved in the wikipedia-community is used to the design, knows the bugs in mediawiki and where to click without thinking for a second.
It's more helpful to test with strangers. Show the page and ask what they think they can do, where they would click first. Then you could give them a task to complete, e.g. "add a link to elbonian wikipedia for the item of your choice" or "find the population of your hometown in 1973" and watch how they'll try to complete the task. You'll be supprised what they will think about the design and how much 'erros' and not intendet actions a inexperienced user will make to complete your tasks.
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:30 PM, benedix@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
Oh there are many points to improve still ;-) Thanks for testing. But I was more thinking of the testing process itself.
sorry that i left the focus of my first question, i'll write more on that tomorrow ;)
Hehe no problem.
- The table-sorting should be the same in repo and client
You mean the way the table is sorted in the repo and the way the language links are sorted in the sidebar of the client? The sorting is being worked on still but I am not sure all Wikipedias can agree on one sorting so it might not be possible to have the same sorting in the repo and all clients.
if there are different versions of the wikidata-frontent for every language the sort-order should be the same as in the related wikipedia
They are not really different versions but translations of the interface. I will bring it up and see if your suggestions is possible.
the sort-order for any language has to be stored somewhere and could be read by wikidata...
for the german wikipedia the rules are here: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Interwiki-Links_auf_der_Hauptseite
"Die Sprachen werden in der alphabetischen Reihenfolge ihrer Abkürzungen nach ISO639-1 in der Originalsprache und -schrift angegeben"
LB
- removing and re-add a link changes the order in the repo but not
in the client
Ok. See previous point.
- The feedback-dialogue behaves strange when clicking on "What is
this?" (the width of the dialogue changes)
Ok. To be honest I am not sure if we'll fix this but we'll see. It's noted.
it's really simple: set the width of: mw-moodBar-overlayWhatContent to 300px in the css and the windowsize won't change.
Oh. If it's that simple then I'll see if we can get it fixed of course ;-) Thx!
I was referring to the feedback function of the demo site. I entered a mailadress, clicked "send" and nothing happened for about one week.
Yes because the demo doesn't have email set up. I am checking the feedback we receive through the feedback system every few days.
then you could remove the mail-question...
Yeah I think there was a problem with that but I will ask again. (The whole thing is just a quick ugly hack on top of an existing extension that required the user to be logged in which we didn't want.)
Cheers Lydia
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