Gerard -- It's not just about getting data out of Wikidata, it's also
about getting data into Wikidata. Being able to round-trip what you've
got already is a minimum requirement for the data model being flexible
enough.
Once we can do that, we can also think how to make *better* templates,
that can show complex information (as reflected in the Wikidata data
modelling) in a straightforward way. Thinking about how we want to
present the data can also point up issues with the data modelling, so
there is an important cycle. The data modelling is also helped the more
we expose it to real cases, such as quirky cases found in the bulk
uploads currently occurring to Commons, and also from the diversity of
original metadata sources for those bulk uploads.
All this will mean more information about objects, stored in a more
structured way, which should make it much more accessible for the
internationalisation and sorting that you rightly raise, as well as
enhancing WD's stores of knowledge about items associated with the
objects -- creators, painters, places, subjects, etc.
So the aim is to directly improve what we can give people when they
click for "More Details" about an image, as well as image searchability,
and the whole store of knowledge in the database; and also to help our
own and others' skills in working with Wikidata.
Not a bad set of aims for one little Wiki project!
As for the legal side, WMF Legal are very much involved with that at the
Foundation level, trying to organise and simplify so one search rapidly
by the key things one might to look for in a license. They obviously
need to lead on that, but obviously if there is anything we as
volunteers can help the central team with, the project aims to be a
resource to be called on.
- J.
On 17/08/2014 16:00, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
Importing data from Wikidata (where do you want it??) is just one
application. There are so many potential applications for structured data
and Wikidata implicitly covers the sum of all knowledge as we know it (in
the Wikimedia projects) so there are opportunities galore.
For people "not to know how to" is a given. I do not care to know about
Wikipedia templates because they are freaking impossibly hard.
For me the data in Wikidata has other applications. One important one is
providing information when there is no Wikipedia article another will be
helping children find pictures of a *YOUR FAVOURITE ANIMAL HERE* in their
own language.That is my vision, motivation. Abstract language does not help
motivate others.. Saying things like "I want every eight year old find
pictures of a horse in their own language" may. It also jives better with
what the WMF aims to achieve.
Thanks,
GerardM