Il 16/10/2014 18:50, Jane Darnell ha scritto:
Purodha,
Redirects are cheap - so cheap in fact, that they take up more space
when you delete them
Every deletion of any page (as almost every action in
MediaWiki)
increases the size of the database.
That doesn't mean the wiki is more cluttered.
, so even if they are misspelled or whatever, they are
mostly left to
rot unless they break something (for example when someone wants to use
a redlink like [[redlink]] and someone else makes a redirect for
"redlink"). I don't think there is any Wikimedia project that actively
deletes redirects.
In general, redirects are supposed to be used as alternate names for
the same thing, and in Wikidata, this is done by typing in alternate
labels. Of course people also use redirects as a way of "bundling
concepts" - just take a look at all the redirects to the article for
"insurance" for all the types of insurance that don't yet have their
own article.
Before Wikidata there were lots of interwiki links to redirects, and
this caused multiple issues with unresolvable interwikilinks. Wikidata
was invented to be able to use persistent identifiers for Wikipedia
articles. Now everyone is surprised that now the interwikilinks work
differently from before. The fact that redirects are not supported is
by design and not a bug. Going forward, instead of making redirects,
Wikidatans should just keep creating items in Wikidata and let the
Wikipedias take care of themselves by letting them create articles and
redirects in the normal wiki way. It should not be a goal for Wikidata
to sitelink to every redirect in every Wikipedia, just as it is not a
goal to sitelink to every image on Wikimedia Commons.
The subject at hand in this email thread is that instead of creating
an article, the user ThurnerRupert made a redirect in the German
Wikipedia called "afrikanische Pflaume" that links to "Prunus" and
expected to be able to interwikilink this redirect via the Wikidata
item for "African Plum" to the French Wikipedia's article for
"safou".
I would say that Wikidata should not support this workflow and it is
incorrect editing behavior. This has nothing to do with the numbers of
redirects or whether or not they need to be deleted by anybody.
Jane