Hoi, The consequence would be that we cannot deal with these files. We cannot even know what they are about, We cannot target them for replacement by freely licensed files.
Having access to them, knowing about them is different from using them.
Files with a "fair use" rationale are categorised by them being available for "fair use" reasons.. Marking them as such is not hard and it is not controversial. Making them unavailable for analysis is. Thanks, GerardM
On 14 September 2014 20:21, Joe Filceolaire filceolaire@gmail.com wrote:
Except that the problem isn't incompatible licenses; its lack of licenses.
Most pix uploaded to wikipedias have no license. They are there under fair use rationales which are specific to each use and to the laws which apply in countries using that language. These pix are not free to reuse. Each reuse needs a new fair use rationale to justify it.
That is why I think we should limit commonsdata to files on commons, at least for now.
Joe
On 14 Sep 2014 17:19, "Gerard Meijssen" gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, Why would it ? A wiki would have a list of permissible licenses. That has nothing to do with Commons and everything with standardising licenses so that there is only one for each license. Thanks, GerardM
On 14 September 2014 17:55, Jan Dudík jan.dudik@gmail.com wrote:
Problem is, when somebody translate article from en.wiki and copy all images, it will display even if they have "incompatibile licence" - and who will check it? And there would be many problems with some people which will not agree with deleting these images from articles. Soulition would be, if there will be some table of wikis which do not allow such images - and servers will not dispaly this images on these wikis.
JAnD
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2014-09-14 17:25 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com:
Hoi, Incompatible how ? The fact that some wikis allow for licenses that
Commons
does not allow for does NOT make them incompatible. It means that they
use
licenses in addition to Commons.. Technically that is no big deal at
all.
Thanks, GerardM
On 13 September 2014 23:40, P. Blissenbach publi@web.de wrote:
Just a word of caution about collecting all images in commons. A while ago, at least, some local wikis had images with license terms incompatible with commons and vice versa. I recall very simple logos of companies, and several types of "fair use" derivatives.
If that is still so, we have an obstacle that may prevent us from both moving images, and even linking to them under some local laws.
Technically, I agree with the idea quoted below.
Purodha
"James Heald" j.heald@ucl.ac.uk wrote:
What I suspect is more likely, and probably makes more sense, is to converge the images themselves to all live in one place. So if the
same
fair-use image was used on multiple fair-use wikis, it would only be stored once (though each fair-use wiki would retain it's own File
page
for it). Such a structure should also make transfers to Commons
much
easier -- compared to the copy-and-paste by bot at the moment, which loses all the file-page history and most of the upload history.
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