Lydia,
If I'm not wront the substituion scenario covers your requirements
{{#property:Pxxx}} ==SUBST BY ==>{{#property:Pxxx|label="main label at the time of substitution"}} {{#property:MainLabelAtSubsTime}} ==SUBST BY ==>{{#property:Pxxx|label="main label at the time of substitution"}} {{#property:UnambiuousAliasAtSubsTime}} ==SUBST BY ==>{{#property:Pxxx|label="unambiguous alias at subst time"}} {{#property:AmbiuousAliasAtSubsTime}} ==SUBST BY ==>{{ERROR}} ==> hence the editor can fix it
It looks like covering most of cases without adding extra burden of unicity and keeping existing mechanism
Mohamed
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:50 PM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:39 PM, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinzler@wikimedia.de wrote:
Am 09.07.2015 um 14:22 schrieb Thomas Douillard:> Substitution is a
standard
mechanism in MediaWiki and would achive what Gerard
needs ... for example: "{{subst:property_prime|date of birth}}" could be expanded and
substituted to
"{{#property:Pxxx}} <--date of birth-->" and everything would be
stored in the
Wikitext. What's wrong with this kind of solution exactly ? you did not elaborate on that.
There is nothing wrong with that. If people on the client wikis think
this is
sufficient, and the {{#property}} parser function does not need to
support
"named" access to properties, that would be fine with me. So far, I
assumed that
it would be very annoying to be forced to rely on IDs when using
{{#property}}.
But if that is fine with everybody, that's fine with me - supporting
only P-ids
there is much simpler than allowing access via labels or aliases.
Accessing only via the property's ID isn't enough. Folks, we want more usage of Wikidata on the Wikipedias and other sister projects. There'll be a few bullets we have to bite to make this happen. I am convinced this is one of them.
Cheers Lydia
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