Denny, Gerard, Lane, Lydia and Wikidatans,
In what ways could we use Freebase - https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Freebase - as an example to further develop Wikidata approaches, and process about, as Denny writes "which kind of data can be integrated in which way" in Wikidata, for integrating other large external interlingual complementary data projects?
What is Wikidata's process for this? Conversation in next Wikidata office hours? Adding such projects to other pages besides, for example, Wikidata/Notes/Future - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Future - where I didn't see Freebase?
Thanks, Scott
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Scott_WUaS
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com
wrote:
Hoi, As you know Amir wrote software to compare data in Freebase and Wikidata. Currently there are students working on a similar approach with other sources. Yes, we want sources obviously HOWEVER, the lack of sources should not hold us back from having valid and valuable data. When data can be compared with other sources and it IS the same, it is almost as good as having a source.
Obviously data is as good as the source itself.
The notion that we should not have data that is from a similar origin as the Wikidata data itself is mind blowingly .... weird ... no excuse for it as far as I am concerned. Our aim is to share the sum of all knowledge and we should honour the hard work that went into Freebase.They are like we are and they deserve recognition and acceptance.
In my honest opinion. I would LOVE to have more data in WIkidata. It makes the data that much more useful. I would LOVE to see more work along the lines of the new Google tool, the work of Amir, the work of the students. It is how we validate what we have. There is a lot of problematic data in there and we can find it, highlight it and come to a better approach each time. Thanks, GerardM
On 17 December 2014 at 19:04, Denny Vrandečić vrandecic@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Gerard,
I very much agree. It would be very good to have a discussion on which kind of data can be integrated in which way.
One way or the other, one of the most frequent criticisms of Wikidata is a lack of references, which this tool will tackle on the way as well. And at the same time it will allow for a human curation step, which I think is crucial for the Wikidata community to gain ownership of the data.
Just dumping everything into Wikidata is, in my opinion, not a sustainable solution. But since the data will be released free, well, the community can decide to do it otherwise, obviously.
Cheers, Denny
On Wed Dec 17 2014 at 8:40:25 AM Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintscher@wikimedia.de> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Lane Rasberry lane@bluerasberry.com wrote:
Hello,
Where is the appropriate place on Wikidata to discuss this? This is big enough for its own WikiProject. Does it already have one somewhere?
Should I
make one? Actually I just did.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Freebase
I hardly know what the implications are of this but it seems big
enough to
have a dedicated place for discussion.
Thanks to Denny for whatever role you had in getting access to well-developed data collected by another project. I do not understand
that
is happening here but it seems like really good news, and I hope
someone
explains it more.
Thanks for starting the project, Lane. Will you announce it on the Project chat? That way most people on-wiki will see it and can jump in. Once it has a bit more content we can announce it more widely.
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