Nadja,
John's question was:
"So, the consequent question I asked then was, if you're not going to use any (ISO or national) standard then how can you assure the WP community that Wikidata is not violating someone's copyright(s)?"
My answer to that question was that we are using standards. And that those standards have, in the process of their creation, a policy that deals with issues of intellectual property. The link I gave you details the policy for W3C standards, which we are using.
I am sorry that I expressed myself unclear, and I hope this now answers your question about how it answers John's previous question.
Cheers, Denny
2012/9/4 Nadja Kutz nadja@daytar.de:
John McClure wrote:
"I don't think you're hearing the question. A reply y'all gave on the issue was that any standard used by Wikidata needed to be 100% open-source -- no money required as in free. Even though what is being charged by ISO to support its business model is a PITTANCE in my humble opinion... So, the consequent question I asked then was, if you're not going to use any (ISO or national) standard then how can you assure the WP community that Wikidata is not violating someone's copyright(s)?"
Hello Lydia,
Unfortunately I have to agree with John that you really do not seem to hear the question because that is also
what I read as your reply. Or was there another reply which I missed somewhere in this hard-to-browse-and-search newsgroup?
Thus please explain a bit more what you mean exactly by "Unless something changed on the freedom status of the documents needed nothing changed since we discussed this last."
I do not agree with John that the ISOs business model is a pittance though.
That is as I linked to in this thread:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wikidata/618
the ISO sells their items seperately and alone e.g. the basic description of Iso inch screw threads:
http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnum...
costs 80 CHF
so this could add up rather quickly to quite an amount of money.
I thus asked (here:http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wikidata/576) wether one shouldnt ask for packages or at least for the use of the ISO classification scheme. I dont know how much copyright there is on classification schemes in general though. (I could imagine that this is a juridicial problem since big parts of a classification scheme
are often trivial and unavoidable, like a hammer is a tool and it would make no sense to give up this
classification just because there was eventually some crazy copyright protection...however may be
lawyers do now think that a hammer could also equally well be classified as wardrobe item (given what one sees
sometimes in jurisdiction I wouldnt wonder anymore))
Regarding the comment by Denny Vandrecic
"Because we ARE using standards like RDF or OWL (or HTML or URIs) which are W3C and IETF standards, and which in turn have a well documented policy regarding patents and copyrights, see e.g. http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20040205/ for W3C standards.
I hope that answers that question."
By looking at this page I can't really see why this is an answer to the questions, could you please explain this a bit more?
thanks nad
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