On 10.06.2016 12:20, Jane Darnell wrote:
Yes I agree, so I guess I disagree with the idea of a
"data lock". I do
however, recognize the desire for a "data lock" which arises out of a
personal frustration with good-faith Wikidata editor behavior. Many of
these unnecessary edits & subsequent reversions on Wikidata could be
avoided when a warning is sent to the good faith editor who makes the
same mistake for the nth time. We should be investigating ways to build
tooling to address this issue, as I believe a lot of the mistakes are
caused by Wikidata beginners who don't understand Wikidata. Don't
forget, the matters are complicated by the fact that most editors don't
speak a common language except for the labels on the items and
properties they are "edit warring" over. I expect that eventually the
need for this will decrease as the number of wikipedians in all language
versions slowly get onboarded in the proper use of Wikidata.
Hopefully. We also need some stronger inter-language coordination to
support this (on a non-technical level). For example, the "allowed"
values for P21 (sex or gender) as given in the description and usage
guides (P2559) are different from language to language, and do not agree
with the values actually used:
The usage notes (which exist only in few languages) have more agreement
than the descriptions. For example, German is stricter in that it's
description asks editors to use the given values *exclusively* but it is
more inclusive in that it allows Genderqueer (Q48270) as a value. I
wonder if there are even editors who check these discrepancies in the
"soft" part that the labels and descriptions constitute.
On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Markus Bärlocher
<markus.baerlocher(a)lau-net.de <mailto:email@example.com>> wrote:
I confirm this view:
the way in which Wikipedia is working:
The power to edit is the foundation of all Wikimedia projects.
Any attempt to shut out some "undesired" users will also reduce the
inflow of competent, well-meaning users.
Wikipedia and Wikidata alike are built upon the bet that there are
more things to be gained than to be lost by being open.
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