And when you look at the discussion, you see that the message that you are referring to said:
" If you have an item that says someone whon a nobel prize, but not when or which, and also does *noit* have a label, that items is quite useless; it'S impossible to tell which person it is even referring to."
The only thing I can conclude is that you are against the removal of items without a label because they probably do have a label. Which in my opinion is UTTER BOLLOCKS.
To get back to
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi When you look at the statistics, you will find that we aggressively pursue the inclusion of labels. When there is no label in your language it is tough. When you use Reasonator there is no problem; you will always see a label in whatever language is available.
My problem is that we know that the prize was won. The item is likely to have a label. For the rest ... as they say in double Dutch.. "search it but out". Thanks, GerardM
On 31 May 2015 at 18:40, Andre Engels andreengels@gmail.com wrote:
And what if Q99999 does not have a label? How am I going from the information "Q99999 won the Nobel Prize in Literature" to "Q99999 is/is not Patrick Modiano"?
André
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, Not enough data. Q99999 may have a label that is "Patrick Modiano".. your first challenge is to find out that your Patrick Modiano is indeed that particular one. Given that you know what award was won, you have a start. Thanks, GerardM
On 31 May 2015 at 17:40, Andre Engels andreengels@gmail.com wrote:
And that helps me how? Most awards have been won by more than one person. If I know that Q99999 has won the Nobel Prize in literature, and I know a fact about Patrick Modiano, should I add that fact to Q99999 or should I create a new item?
André
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, Typically such items were created because the article about the award mentions them. So it is all a matter of perspective. When the award is leading, the information about an award winner is in the article on the award. Having all these awardees on the article is not so great, it is not what we do.
Impossible? Certainly not. Reat the damn article (on the award). Thanks, GerardM
On 31 May 2015 at 17:06, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinzler@wikimedia.de wrote:
Am 31.05.2015 um 15:21 schrieb Gerard Meijssen: > Hoi, > When someone or something received an award, it is needed if only > to > complete > the list of recipients of that award.. There is no benchmark for > enough > information. The notion that you a Nobel award winner is not > relevant > is > poppycock. With automated descriptions awards do show.
If you have an item that says someone whon a nobel prize, but not when or which, and also does *noit* have a label, that items is quite useless; it'S impossible to tell which person it is even referring to.
That is what markus is talking about. For people, if there is a label, we already have pretty good info. But if there is no label, we have a problem, and if there isn't any other identifying info,m the item is useless.
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