Yes, we carefully used Autolist1 so that they couldn't easily make bulk edits, to avoid this :-). It was solely a discovery tool rather than an editing one.
However, in the workshop, one person did figure out how to, and did a batch of fifty on their own initiative!
A.
On 4 December 2015 at 18:18, Jan Ainali jan.ainali@wikimedia.se wrote:
That is a nice idea Andrew. One thing to be aware of is editing pace. I had an advanced workshop with prepared pre-filled Autolists, and when 10-15 people with new accounts on the same IP tried to add statements at the same time through Autolist there was some mechanism that kicked in (to protect Wikidata). I understand the reason for the feature and do not suggest changing it, people designing workshops just need to be aware that this feature exist.
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2015-12-04 19:07 GMT+01:00 Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk:
Charles Matthews and I ran a workshop a little while ago which had something like the fortune cookie idea.
First, we demonstrated basic Wikidata editing (adding/changing statements) as part of a discussion on the data structure - properties and items, item versus text properties, etc.
After this, we gave everyone a numbered slip with a Wikidata query (in WDQ form) on it - mostly of the type "claim[X] and noclaim[Y]". Then we got them to load up pre-filled Autolist links (all numbered and ready), pick a couple of entries from the list, and try to fix whatever was missing. (There was an unintended detour at this point into how to interpret WDQ queries - people got the idea pretty fast that these were one set of items missing particular values)
Queries we used were things like "people with no nationality" (though "people born since 1600 with no nationality" would have worked better), "people with no occupation", "buildings that don't have a 'located in' value", etc.
This got people making small edits very early, ensured that we had a fresh supply of "missing cases" to work on (because the lists were generated from scratch), and prompted a lot of very good questions for discussion, people starting to hack the queries to find more specific topics, etc. I was really quite pleased with the way it worked.
Andrew.
On 4 December 2015 at 17:38, Benjamin Good ben.mcgee.good@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks All! (and especially to Lane for by far the best complement I've received,
maybe
ever..)
Will get back to you with the final product and some news about the meeting.. Andra Waagmeester had a great idea that unfortunately we are
a
bit late to implement. Fortune cookies to pass out where each fortune
is a
single wikidata edit that the recipient is encouraged to make.. Would
love
to see that play out someday.
-Ben
On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 6:51 AM, Lane Rasberry lane@bluerasberry.com
wrote:
Benjamin,
It might be helpful for you to get confirmation that there are no excellent polished Wikidata tutorials in existence.
The good tutorials are made by people who know Wikidata, like the one
EMW
shared, but EMW is not a graphic designer and made a practical
presentation
rather than a corporate scripted slideset.
Your "poof it works" article is the state of the art.
<
http://sulab.org/2015/10/poof-it-works-using-wikidata-to-build-wikipedia-art...
It is all very casual and everything understates how important and revolutionary Wikidata is. I still show your article to lots of
people. Of
all the Wikidata narratives I have read I like yours the best.
yours,
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:31 PM, Benjamin Good <
ben.mcgee.good@gmail.com>
wrote:
The gene wiki people are hosting a tutorial on wikidata in Cambridge,
UK
next Monday [1]. In the interest of making the best tutorial in the
least
amount of preparation time.. I was wondering if anyone on the list had content (slides, handouts, cheatsheets) that they had already used successfully and might want to share? We are assembling the
structure of
the 90 minute session in a google doc [2], feel free to chime in
there !
And of course everything we generate for that will be available
online as
soon as it exists.
cheers -Ben
[1]
http://www.swat4ls.org/workshops/cambridge2015/programme/tutorials/
[2]
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dSgm90SbQBpHqEMa17t5zQL0PB2waIKD3LKTPPkn...
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