Hello GerardM,
Interwikis between categories and disambiguation pages serve a purpose, they form a
navigational structure to enable people to find information. Certainly navigational pages
make information also reachable. I use them, many other users use the interwikilinks, and
so on.
Romaine
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From: Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Is an ecosystem of Wikidatas possible?
To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project."
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Date: Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 8:10 PM
Hoi,
The initial application for Wikidata is to replace the interwiki links of Wikipedia.
Arguably many of the interwiki links do not serve a purpose. In my opinion there is no
need for interwiki linking disambiguation pages or categories. I fail to see the value in
these.
Having links to Wikivoyage or Wikibooks or Wikisource can have an application. Making use
of Wikidata to add tags to Commons is an application that would REALLY help Commons gain
usability.
Given that Wikidata is NOT Wikipedia, the requirements of notability are not necessarily
requirements that are relevant in the Wikidata context.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 11 June 2013 20:41, David Cuenca <dacuetu(a)gmail.com> wrote:
While on the Hackathon I had the opportunity to talk with some people from sister projects
about how they view Wikidata and the relationship it should have to sister projects.
Probably you are already familiar with the views because they have been presented already
several times. The hopes are high, in my opinion too high, about what can be accomplished
when Wikidata is deployed to sister projects.
There are conflicting needs about what belongs into Wikidata and what sister projects
need, and that divide it is far greater to be overcome than just by installing the
extension. In fact, I think there is a confusion between the need for Wikidata and the
need for structured data. True that Wikidata embodies that technology, but I don't
think all problems can be approached by the same centralized tool. At least not from the
social side of it.
Wikiquote could have one item for each quote, or Wikivoyage an item for each bar, hostel,
restaurant, etc..., and the question will always be: are they relevant enough to be
created in Wikidata? Considering that Wikidata was initially thought for Wikipedia, that
scope wouldn't allow those uses. However, the structured data needs could be covered
in other ways.
It doesn't need to be a big wikidata addressing it all. It could well be a central
Wikidata addressing common issues (like author data, population data, etc), plus other
Wikidata installs on each sister project that requires it. For instance there could be a
data.wikiquote.org, a
data.wikivoyage.org, etc that would cater for the needs of each
community, that I predict will increase as soon as the benefits become clear, and of
course linked to the central Wikidata whenever needed. Even Commons could be
"wikidatized" with each file becoming an item and having different labels
representing the file name depending on the language version being accessed.
Could be this the right direction to go?
Cheers,
Micru
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