Given that DBpedia includes Wikidata and has its own processes to get data
from the Wikipedias it must be bigger than Wikidata.
PS There is room enough for both Wikidata and DBpedia and if anything
DBpedia is quite happy to collaborate, Wikidata is not collaborating;
everything is Wikidata centred. I get the impression that it is like the
Borg and its charm is sometimes equivalent.
On 5 May 2018 at 15:02, David Abián <davidabian(a)wikimedia.es> wrote:
Since the subject has come out, I leave some general
aren't necessarily applicable to the people in charge of generating the
Many DBpedia-centered researchers are truly reluctant to mention
Wikidata. Some of them don't want people to know that Wikidata exists,
so they continue introducing DBpedia in their talks and papers as the
largest knowledge base that is available out there — which is, indeed,
no longer true. This isn't hate but an attempt to survive, an attempt to
ignore change, to continue working on the same lines of research and
"enjoying" the corresponding, sometimes poor, funding.
It's not a matter of triples. The very ideas of both projects are
different, and this point is what makes DBpedia potentially obsolete.
DBpedia is a non-collaborative project — as we understand collaboration
in the Wikimedia movement — that emerged from academia with the aim of
*extracting* information from Wikipedia. Similarly to Wikipedia, it can
be confusing to talk about DBpedia in the singular because there are
several DBpedias, each one mainly oriented, and limited, to a language,
and not very well interlinked. There's, however, a single multilingual
Wikidata that makes the idea of extracting information from Wikipedia
less meaningful. Most relevant structured data are already centralized
here, in Wikidata, which *provides* them to Wikipedia. Moreover, the
data in Wikidata are referenced... sometimes :), and they are more
fine-grained and better structured than those in DBpedia.
Researchers should have nothing to fear from Wikidata, and some of them,
mainly the young ones, do start to work on our project. In my humble
opinion, we need the help of universities and research centers to fill
some gaps and to produce and apply theory. I think these needs should be
better communicated to researchers and fears should be mitigated. Our
project isn't "that new" today.
Hopefully, Wikidata will appear soon in the LOD cloud... O:)
El 04/05/18 a las 18:33, Maarten Dammers escribió:
It almost feels like someone doesn’t want
Wikidata in there? Maybe that
website is maintained by DBpedia fans? Just thinking out loud here
because DBpedia is very popular in the academic world and Wikidata a
huge threat for that popularity.
Op 4 mei 2018 om 17:20 heeft Denny Vrandečić <vrandecic(a)gmail.com
<mailto:email@example.com>> het volgende geschreven:
> I'm pretty sure that Wikidata is doing better than 90% of the current
> bubbles in the diagram.
> If they wanted to have Wikidata in the diagram it would have been
> there before it was too small to read it. :)
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