Hi Violeta,
I just wanted to add that, although I agree with your friendly suggestion, I have one of my own:
Your email advertising the conference does not reference Wikidata, Mediawiki or Wikimedia at any point.
I understand that If you're posting this email to many places, it takes time to customize it for every community, but at the same time I can also understand how it is perceived as advertisement because it is not clear at all what the connection to the people on the mailing list is and why this could be interesting to them.
So my suggestion is to have the generic body of the email stay the same, and have an introductory paragraph at the start of the email that is fitted to the people you're addressing on each list. It could include past participation of the community or point out relevant talks in the current program and point out in what other ways the conference could be interesting to the people reading the email (networking, meetups, work groups etc).
I hope this helps avoid future misunderstandings.
All the best for your conference - Charlie
Am Di., 4. Sep. 2018 um 14:30 Uhr schrieb Violeta Ilik < ilik.violeta@gmail.com>:
Thank you for addressing this issue. Yes, members of the wikidata community have participated in Force11 events in the past and also this year: http://sched.co/F7u7 Members of the Force11 actually visited the Wikidata headquarters last year in Berlin when our 2017 conference was held there. See that program for reference:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DH8FfDOGOqzYpCjVJK4aZcVq0vk4d-77fx7M...
A friendly suggestion: please look up the event, in this case Force11 [ https://www.force11.org/meetings/force2018], before sending emails that contain suggestions to blacklist people.
Violeta
On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 8:03 AM, Léa Lacroix lea.lacroix@wikimedia.de wrote:
Hello all,
Lydia and I, as moderators of this list, are filtering the announcements about conferences, keeping only the ones that have a link to Wikidata or could interest the broad community. The criteria of having to pay for the conference or not is not taken in account. In that case, the conference includes open data in its topic, and some members of the Wikicite group have been there in the past, that's why we thought it would be interesting for the Wikidata community.
However, we don't tolerate spam, multiple-reminders for the same event, and we try to reduce the noise as much as possible for the ~1200 subscribers of this mailing-list.
Thanks for your understanding, Léa
On 30 August 2018 at 18:57, Violeta Ilik ilik.violeta@gmail.com wrote:
Are you talking about the email I sent to register for the Force11 conference?
Violeta
On Thursday, August 30, 2018, Jérémie Roquet jroquet@arkanosis.net wrote:
2018-08-30 16:43 GMT+02:00 Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com:
I'm going to ask the opinion of the Wikidata list moderators here.
This
email appears to be a soloicitation to pay for attendance to an
event, which
I would consider to be a junk email and would treat accordingly
including by
blacklisting the sender. Do the Wikidata list moderators agree?
I didn't want to be the first to raise what I wasn't sure to be an issue, but I feel the same.
Best regards,
-- Jérémie
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