On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 12:03 AM, jmcclure@hypergrove.com wrote:
Denny said: On the other hand, you are not the only person thinking that this (Wikitopics) is a good idea (hello Gerard!), and in the long run Wikidata could be extended to such a system -- but for now I regard this to be out of scope for Wikidata and I will not devote resources for this. It can be added later anyway.
Denny,
I never see the long-run! Anyway, to get real, be aware there are specific concerns about [[wikidata]] within the SMW community in the here and now:
Hey John,
It'd be great if you could say who "we" is specifically. I am happy to discuss issues and find ways to fix them. "We" is making it seem like it is the whole SMW community which I know isn't true ;-)
- we worry that our sites are threatened by virtual cessation of SMW
development -- this may already be happening a bit as SMW subjectively seems to be encountering quality control issues lately
Ok. What can we do to fix this? SMW shouldn't be threatened by Wikidata nor the other way around. They have different target groups for one and can co-exist. We are of course trying to share things like result formats in the future.
- we worry that, whenever we install the [[Wikidata]] extension, then the
performance of client sites will be affected by the burden of multiple forms, query and format software modules, syntaxes, styles, artifacts etc
Wikidata will have to run on Wikipedia. A lot of work is being put into performance and scalability. The performance impact on smaller wikis should be bearable because of this.
- we worry that, since no specific problems experienced by wiki-users have
yet been identified that [[Wikidata]] will "fix", in the end, [[wikidata]] is doomed for not creating stakeholders within the wiki-user community that includes SMW developers.
Wikidata will concentrate on Wikipedia and the problems it is trying to solve have been laid out. SMW has its own target audience and that is fine.
Cheers Lydia
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