On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Peter F.
Patel-Schneider
<pfpschneider(a)gmail.com <mailto:pfpschneider@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 09/24/2015 10:59 AM, Lydia Pintscher wrote:
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Tom Morris
<tfmorris(a)gmail.com <mailto:tfmorris@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks! Is there any more information on the
issue with MusicBrainz?
17:26:27 <DanielK_WMDE> sjoerddebruin: yes, we went for MusicBrainz first,
but it turned out to be impractical. you basically have to run their
software in order to use their dumps
MusicBrainz was a major source of information for Freebase, so they appear
to have been able to figure out how to parse the dumps (and they already
have the MusicBrainz & Wikipedia IDs correlated).
Is there more detail, perhaps in a bug somewhere?
The issue is that they do offer dumps but you need to set up your own
musicbrainz server to really use it. This was too time-intensive and
complicated for the students to make progress on during their project.
Because of this they decided to instead opt for another dataset
instead to get started. In the future Musicbrainz should still get
done. If anyone wants to work on adding more datasets to the tool
please let me know.
Cheers
Lydia
This is to add MusicBrainz to the primary source tool, not anything else?
It's apparently worse than that (which I hadn't realized until I re-read the
transcript). It sounds like it's just going to generate little warning icons
for "bad" facts and not lead to the recording of any new facts at all.
17:22:33<Lydia_WMDE> we'll also work on getting the extension deployed that
will help with checking against 3rd party databases
17:23:33<Lydia_WMDE> the result of constraint checks and checks against 3rd party
databases will then be used to display little indicators next to a statement in case it is
problematic
17:23:47<Lydia_WMDE> i hope this way more people become aware of issues and can
help fix them
17:24:35<sjoerddebruin> Do you have any names of databases that are supported? :)
17:24:59<Lydia_WMDE> sjoerddebruin: in the first version the german national
library. it can be extended later
I know Freebase is deemed to be nasty and unreliable, but is MusicBrainz
considered trustworthy enough to import directly or will its facts need to be
dripped through the primary source soda straw one at a time too?
Tom
I wonder how these warnings will work. I can see lots and lots of warnings
due to minor variations in names of artists.
I do agree that MusicBrainz data should pass the Wikidata bar, as the data in
MusicBrainz appear to me to be noteworthy and related to information in some
Wiki (and true, although this is not part of the Wikidata bar as far as I know).
peter