On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM, benedix@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 9:40 AM, benedix@zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
Hi,
I would like to know how you organize the testing process for the front-end? Where are the final users (the Wikipedia community) involved in this process?
We have a demo and there have been several calls for testing of said demo system. There will be more of these calls. Everyone is welcome to join this of course. We have published mock-ups and drafts that people were asked to comment on. We will have more of these as well. Do you have more ideas that I should consider?
I see more than one open point to improve in the demo-system since i discovered the Demo a few weeks ago:
Oh there are many points to improve still ;-) Thanks for testing. But I was more thinking of the testing process itself.
- The table-sorting should be the same in repo and client
You mean the way the table is sorted in the repo and the way the language links are sorted in the sidebar of the client? The sorting is being worked on still but I am not sure all Wikipedias can agree on one sorting so it might not be possible to have the same sorting in the repo and all clients.
- removing and re-add a link changes the order in the repo but not in
the client
Ok. See previous point.
- The feedback-dialogue behaves strange when clicking on "What is this?"
(the width of the dialogue changes)
Ok. To be honest I am not sure if we'll fix this but we'll see. It's noted.
- I have to write "Deutsch" into the laguage-textbox to add a link to the
german wikipedia even if the demo-system-language is english
I brought this up and it seems like a good idea indeed.
- "specify site" may be changed to "language" and "specify page" to "article"
Ok I'll file a bug for this.
- when crating a new item I have to click "add" before entering the first
language-link
Agreed. This is indeed odd at the moment. However later you will have more options to add data there. We'll have to see how this looks like with more fields later.
- the textboxes for adding a new link should not be hidden
Noted.
- it is not obvious how to edit a link without hovering the existing links
Yes. This is being reworked already.
- it is possible to edit more than one link but not to add more than one
Noted. It'll probably be changed to only allow one edit as well.
I think you should test the Demo with real people. With people who are not involved in the develpment and haven't read or heard about the WikiData-Project.
We are testing with real people with the demo who are not involved in the development. I have been to a few events now and showed it to people who have only gotten a short intro to Wikidata and then tried the demo. But your point is of course right. We will be posting a job add for a dedicated Q/A person in the next days. Watch this list for more info if you are interested.
- Show them the site, and see if they get it — do they understand the
purpose of the site, the value proposition, how it’s organized, how it works, and so on.
- give them tasks to fulfill and watch them
Above all, I noticed that there was no response to the feedback I've given.
Hmm can you let me know where that was? This shouldn't happen.
I was referring to the feedback function of the demo site. I entered a mailadress, clicked "send" and nothing happened for about one week.
Yes because the demo doesn't have email set up. I am checking the feedback we receive through the feedback system every few days.
Maybe you can use the built-in discussion-page and not only the mailing-list.
Unfortunately not because the demo will be reset every now and then and therefor information in there will be lost. However if you prefer a wiki for discussion then meta:Wikidata is a good place.
Cheers Lydia