Thanks Gerard, but which ones do you think could be qualifiers? And
qualifiers of what?
As a default position, I tend to be against hiding information in
qualifiers when it is an actual fact about the item, because it makes
the fact harder to extract and to use -- eg it's harder (and slower) to
include in a recursive query. So as I rule, I prefer to use qualifiers
to indicate the sense in which something is true, or any limits on its
truth, rather than as a place to store primary facts.
In terms of currency, all of the statuses have current relevance (though
some may be more significant than others), apart from Q21457810.
But even for historical facts, it makes queries for those historical
facts trickier if they can't be retrieved using the wdt:... form of
properties -- or rather (in fact, worse) if the wdt:... query *appears*
to work, and retrieves some values, but is in fact silently not
returning all of them.
-- James.
On 30/11/2015 04:40, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
Most of these could be / should be qualifiers. Several are historic and no
longer valid.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 29 November 2015 at 23:42, James Heald <j.heald(a)ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
> If we look at Glasgow,
>
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4093
>
> the values for P31 in question are:
>
> Q515 -- city
> Q15060255 -- council area
> Q7309443 -- registration county
> Q202435 -- lieutenancy area of Scotland
> Q21457810 -- Scottish district (1975 to 1996)
>
> Each of those statuses is different and independent (even in a purely
> Scottish context): none of them implies any of the others, none of them is
> implied by any of the others.
>
> So, in this case, I don't see that "city of Scotland" would help at
all.
>
> -- James.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 29/11/2015 17:56, Joe Filceolaire wrote:
>
>> Why have instance of item and instance of superclass of that item?
>> If Glasgow is instance of : city of Scotland and
>> City of Scotland is subclass of : city
>> Then we should not have Glasgow instance of : city
>>
>> This principle should cut down a lot of these extra 'instances '
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 15:51 Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Gerard Meijssen, 28/11/2015 07:05:
>>>
>>>> A big city is what? A city with more than a given number of inhabitants?
>>>> If so it is redundant because it can be inferred.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Criteria might be defined by local law and/or require some
>>> administrative act. That's how it works in Italy, for instance.
>>>
>>> Nemo
>>>