Maybe we should store these internationalised
templates here on wikidata?
That's precisely what my opening post is about :)
I need help from people who understand Wikidata (and possible dbpedia)
better than I do to figure out the details of getting it done.
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2015-03-04 12:21 GMT+02:00 Joe Filceolaire <filceolaire(a)gmail.com>om>:
> If you want to list the properties called by a template then you need a
> property which links to other properties - ie it has a property datatype.
> Property datatype is not available yet but is coming soon.
>
> You can then use the labels for this property in various languages to
> label the corresponding template parameters
>
> It seems to me that it would be better to store this info in the template
> itself - use lua to specify the property for each parameter and also to
> specify that the parameter label should be the label of the corresponding
> property in the language of that wiki.
>
Maybe we should store these internationalised
templates here on wikidata?
> On 4 Mar 2015 09:35, "Dimitris
Kontokostas" <jimkont(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:07 AM, Stas Malyshev <smalyshev(a)wikimedia.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> > architect}} at the top. How would ContentTranslation, a MediaWiki
>>> > extension installed on the Wikimedia cluster, know that the
"name"
>>> > parameter is "naam" in Dutch?
>>>
>>> "Name" would be a bit tricky since I'm not sure if we have
property
>>> called "name" but for something like date of birth wouldn't it
be useful
>>> to link it in the template to
>>>
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property:P569 somehow? Is there such
>>> possibility?
>>>
>>
>> In DBpedia we have our own properties and the mappings should use these
>> instead.
>> Some exceptions exist for very popular vocabularies such as foaf:name but
>> I am not sure if we should allow direct mappings to a wikidata property if
>> an equivalent DBpedia property exists.
>> In this case it's
>>
http://mappings.dbpedia.org/index.php/OntologyProperty:BirthDate
>> We already have some mappings in place but more are needed for complete
>> coverage
>>
>>
http://mappings.dbpedia.org/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=wik…
>>
>>
>>> With identifying properties, however - such as name - I'm not sure if
>>> this could be used.
>>>
>>
>> I agree that general properties such as name are difficult to interpret
>>
>>
>>>
>>> > Even if it is possible to query it, is it good to be dependent on an
>>> > external website for this? Maybe it makes sense to import the data from
>>> > dbpedia to Wikidata? It's absolutely not a rhetorical question -
maybe
>>> > it is OK to use dbpedia.
>>>
>>> Well, in dbpedia it says name is foaf:name, but this could only be
>>> appropriate for humans (and maybe only in specific contexts), for other
>>> entities "name" may have completely different semantics. In
Wikidata,
>>> however, properties are generic, so I wonder if it would be possible to
>>> keep context. dbPedia obviously does have context but not sure where it
>>> would be in Wikidata.
>>>
>>
>> We could keep the context in DBpedia and with proper inter-linking do
>> many interesting stuff.
>>
>> As we discussed yesterday, we could use DBpedia Live and check for
>> updated/stalled/missing values.
>> For example, if the previous values were the same in DBpedia/Wikipedia &
>> Wikidata and e.g. Wikipedia changes a value we could trigger an update
>> alert, or if a new value such as deathDate in introduced that does not
>> exist in Wikidata.
>> DBpedia would use dbo:deathDate, but using the link to P570 we could
>> allow an agent to do the check
>>
>>
>>>
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