Ah, that's lovely. Thanks for the update, Kingsley! Uniprot is a good parallel to keep in mind.
For Egon, Andra, others who work with them: Is there someone you'd recommend chatting with at uniprot? "scaling alongside uniprot" or at least engaging them on how to solve shared + comparable issues (they also offer authentication-free SPARQL querying) sounds like a compelling option.
S.
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 4:32 PM Kingsley Idehen via Wikidata < wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
On 8/18/21 5:07 PM, Mike Pham wrote:
Wikidata community members,
Thank you for all of your work helping Wikidata grow and improve over the years. In the spirit of better communication, we would like to take this opportunity to share some of the current challenges Wikidata Query Service (WDQS) is facing, and some strategies we have for dealing with them.
WDQS currently risks failing to provide acceptable service quality due to the following reasons:
Blazegraph scaling
Graph size. WDQS uses Blazegraph as our graph backend. While Blazegraph can theoretically support 50 billion edges https://blazegraph.com/, in reality Wikidata is the largest graph we know of running on Blazegraph (~13 billion triples https://grafana.wikimedia.org/d/000000489/wikidata-query-service?viewPanel=7&orgId=1&refresh=1m), and there is a risk that we will reach a size https://www.w3.org/wiki/LargeTripleStores#Bigdata.28R.29_.2812.7B.29limit of what it can realistically support https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T213210. Once Blazegraph is maxed out, WDQS can no longer be updated. This will also break Wikidata tools that rely on WDQS. 2.
Software support. Blazegraph is end of life software, which is no longer actively maintained, making it an unsustainable backend to continue moving forward with long term.
Blazegraph maxing out in size poses the greatest risk for catastrophic failure, as it would effectively prevent WDQS from being updated further, and inevitably fall out of date. Our long term strategy to address this is to move to a new graph backend that best meets our WDQS needs and is actively maintained, and begin the migration off of Blazegraph as soon as a viable alternative is identified https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T206560.
Hi Mike,
Do bear in mind that pre and post selection of Blazegraph for Wikidata, we've always offered an RDF-based DBMS that can handle current and future requirements for Wikidata, just as we do DBpedia.
At the time of our first rendezvous, handling 50 billion triples would have typically required our Cluster Edition which is a Commercial Only offering -- basically, that was the deal breaker back then.
Anyway, in recent times, our Open Source Edition has evolved to handle some 80 Billion+ triples (exemplified by the live Uniprot instance) where performance and scale is primary a function of available memory.
I hope this helps.
Related:
[1] https://wikidata.demo.openlinksw.com/sparql -- Our Live Wikidata SPARQL Query Endpoint [2] https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15AXnxMgKyCvLPil_QeGC0DiXOP-Hu8Ln97fZ... -- Google Spreadsheet about various Virtuoso Configurations associated with some well-known public endpoints [3] https://t.co/EjAAO73wwE -- this query doesn't complete with the current Blazegraph-based Wikidata endpoint [4] https://t.co/GTATPPJNBI -- same query completing when applied to the Virtuoso-based endpoint [5] https://t.co/X7mLmcYC69 -- about loading Wikidata's datasets into a Virtuoso instance [6] https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Wikidata%20%23VirtuosoRDBMS%20%40kidehen&... https://twitter.com/search?q=%2523Wikidata%20%2523VirtuosoRDBMS%20%2540kidehen&src=typed_query&f=live -- various demos shared via Twitter over the years regarding Wikidata
-- Regards,
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