Daniel, Gerard, Lydia, and Wikidatans,
Long interested here in a Creative Commons' licensed Universal Translator for all 7929+ languages (that is significantly CC Wikidata/Wikipedia- informed between all its 288 languages) and that is extensible, and especially with developing machine learning and voice etc., this Wikidata conversation is GREAT because aliases of properties can be coded for the unique multiplicity of connotations/denotations, almost infinitely, in any given word (or meme even, as replicating cultural unit), and then be recombined. In what ways can this discussion further anticipate a large translator for all of Wikipedia's 288 languages 5, 10, 20 + years ahead, I wonder, and with developing CC artificial intelligence? (Interspecies' communication and related coding systems? Genetics' link to language use? Brain neuron firing patterns to language use? Reflexivity and subjectivity questions of consciousness down the phylogenetic tree, etc? ...each a Q-item + ...all vis-a-vis CC AI?)
In what ways would a far-reaching and great Wikidata translator facilitate far greater usage of Wikipedia and its sister projects?
Thank you, Scott MacLeod
CC http://worlduniversityandschool.org/
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:39 PM, Daniel Kinzler daniel.kinzler@wikimedia.de wrote:
Am 09.07.2015 um 14:22 schrieb Thomas Douillard:> Substitution is a
standard
mechanism in MediaWiki and would achive what Gerard
needs ... for example: "{{subst:property_prime|date of birth}}" could be expanded and
substituted to
"{{#property:Pxxx}} <--date of birth-->" and everything would be stored
in the
Wikitext. What's wrong with this kind of solution exactly ? you did not elaborate on that.
There is nothing wrong with that. If people on the client wikis think
this is
sufficient, and the {{#property}} parser function does not need to support "named" access to properties, that would be fine with me. So far, I
assumed that
it would be very annoying to be forced to rely on IDs when using
{{#property}}.
But if that is fine with everybody, that's fine with me - supporting only
P-ids
there is much simpler than allowing access via labels or aliases.
Accessing only via the property's ID isn't enough. Folks, we want more usage of Wikidata on the Wikipedias and other sister projects. There'll be a few bullets we have to bite to make this happen. I am convinced this is one of them.
Cheers Lydia
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