That is great, thanks for the clarification Andrew.
I guess as a rule of thumb, the label of the entry in Wikipedia should match label of the linked entry in MusicBrainz.
nick.
-----Original Message----- From: Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk Date: Wednesday, 31 July 2013 12:59 To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Nicholas Humfrey nicholas.humfrey@bbc.co.uk Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Scope of a Wikidata entry
Hi Nicholas,
a) Yes, it is about the person and the aliases together. As a general rule, it's one article per person, not per name.
b) Different names is a quirk of the Wikipedia background - these default to the title of the Wikipedia article on that person, and there's no agreement on whether to put the article under the person or the more famous pseudonym.
c) At the moment, yes, there would need to be separate Wikipedia pages. I think for the specific case of people with pseudonyms, Wikidata is likely to continue on a "one entity" rule even if we relax the Wikipedia requirement.
d) I think the initial assumption was that there was a 1=1 match, but if there are multiple musicbrainz id's representing facets of the same entity, then Wikidata will support adding several.
Andrew.
On 31 July 2013 12:45, Nicholas Humfrey nicholas.humfrey@bbc.co.uk wrote:
Hello,
Can you help me understand the scope of a Wikidata entry please?
What is this Wikidata entry for? http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q272619
Is it for the person Norman Cook and all of his aliases? Should that title be Fatboy Slim or Norman Cook? Is it ok that it has different titles in different languages?
Do there have to be separate Wikpedia pages before we can create separate Wikidata entities for the separate concepts?
In MusicBrainz there are three artists that point to the 'Norman Cook' Wikipedia page:
http://musicbrainz.org/artist/3150be04-f42f-43e0-ab5c-77965a4f7a7d http://musicbrainz.org/artist/34c63966-445c-4613-afe1-4f0e1e53ae9a http://musicbrainz.org/artist/ba81eb4a-0c89-489f-9982-0154b8083a28
Should they all be pointing at the same Wikidata entry too?
Is it ok that there is only a single MusicBrainz identifier in Wikidata? How is that identifier chosen?
The problem that we are experiencing is that our Triplestore is merging all these concepts together into a single entity and I am trying to work out where to break the equivalence, or if it is even a problem.
Thanks!
nick.
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