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[Wikidata-l] OpenData combined with BI-Technologies (like Jedox)
by Tobias Grenzing 01 Jan '13

01 Jan '13

Hello Wikidata, First of all: Happy new Year, folks! I met you at CCC-Congress in Hamburg. It is great, for me, to have seen you there. About 10 month ago, i wrote you an email with the idea of wikidata, and the question, if something is in the pipeline(a)wikimedia.com within this matter (please find below in German), because I had the idea of working out everything within BI-Software. Me and 2 friends (see CC) feel still very dedicated to this idea, just to use BusinessIntelligence-Technologies like Jedox (Jedox.com - OpenSource) to combine all kind of offered OpenData's to get freak out new informations, just by one (first) sight. You never know, what kind of informations can be found, when combining everything with everything…for me the most exciting pastime, as can be. while next possibility is, to model and simulate all kinds of political ideas based on real(-time) data and not just idealistic mathematic formulas and theorems. It could not also bring new input to politics, it could also bring paradigm shift in economic science... But before starting all over by ones own, my question would be, if there are already projects running somewhere on the world. It's rather better to join, than having to do all by oneself. But up to now, I only found some about DataVisualisation and DataJournalism. I would be very happy, if somewhere anywhere in the world is a group of previsional experts, planning the world 3steps ahead within the most intelligence software as can be... I was asked at CCC-Congress to write you an email within this. Would be very nice to hear from you, at least this time... Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen Tobias Grenzing ------------------------------------------------- -content deleted per user request - Am 06.02.2012 um 23:21 schrieb Tobias Grenzing: > info(a)wikimedia.de > Hallo ihr großartigen Wikimedia-Leute, > > ich beginne gerade den Gedanken an eine neue Projekt-Idee in die Welt zu streuen und Sympathisanten zu suchen, bzw. ihre Realisierbarkeit zu checken. > Es kommen derzeit viele alternative Wirtschaftsmodelle in Umlauf. > > z.B. gibt es zur Zeit > 1. das Bandbreitenmodel - http://www.bandbreitenmodell.de/ > 2. den PlanB der Wissensmanufaktur.net > 3. die Monitative der Piraten-Partei - http://www.global-change-2009.com/blog/ein-grundlegender-losungsansatz-fur-… > etc... > > Dabei lese ich Literatur zu Makro-Investitionsstrategien die Geldmengenwachstum, Inflationsraten, Import/Export-Zahlen etc analysieren. > Aber woher haben die diese ganzen Daten? > Sind die alle öffentlich zugänglich? > > Mir schwebt wohl etwas vor wie ein Statistisches Bundesamt (http://www.destatis.de) auf Wikipedia-OpenSource-Basis. > Habt ihr darüber mal nachgedacht? > Die Eurostat- und Statistikbundesamt-Website haben sogar graphische Frontends. > http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/inflation_dashboard/ > https://www-genesis.destatis.de/genesis/online > > Da diese Zahlen, Daten, Infos aber von politischen Institutionen stammen, dürfte eine politische Intention ihrerseits nicht irritieren. > > Dabei lebt Wikipedia von der OpenSource- und Mitmachidee. Der CCC erhebt die Forderung einer maschinenlesbaren Regierung (im Gegensatz zu maschinenlesbaren Menschen!), was mich hier sehr inspirierte. Wenn es möglich ist, unzählige Datenquellen anzuzapfen (ETL) und in ein Datawarehouse zu speisen, auf dass die Welt übers Web zugreifen könne, womit dann Analysen, Berichte, aber eben auch neue Modellierungen, Progrosen, Forcastings erstellt werden können. > > Es kommt viel Transparenz in die Politik der Zahlen, jeder kann mitmachen und die Entstehung der Zahlen überprüfen (soweit Kenntnisse über das IT-Systems vorhanden sind). > > Aber viel wichtiger wäre es mir, Modelle wie z.B. das Bandbreitenmodell oder die Monitative anhand der Vorjahreszahlen durchrechnen zu können, welchen Effekt Modelvorgaben dieser "anderen Ökonomie" auf die Realwirtschaft hätten, wo die Probleme wäre, wo man noch nachbessern müßte, wie zentrale Parameter zu setzen wären...etc. > > Ich habe gehört, dass die Modelrechnungen in der physikalischen Technik heute soweit fortgeschritten sind, das Atombombentest nicht mehr real ausgeführt werden müssen, sondern anhand von Computersimulationen durchgeführt werden! > Was für eine geniale Technologie ist das! > > Politisch findet so etwas im Finanzministerium statt, z.B. Wirtschaftsprognose des nächsten Jahres. Öffentlich zugänglich sind diese Modelrechnungen nicht. Welche Regierung läßt sich denn schon gerne in die Karten gucken. > > Aber wenn hier ein Projekt gestartet werden könnte, in etwa dem des Wikipedia-Umfeldes, sodass ein "Welt-Datawarehouse" (oder meinetwegen auch nur ein Deutsches bzw. Europäisches) etabliert werden könnte, ließe sich ein ganz neues Zeitalter der Transparent einleuten. > > Ich finde die Idee sehr spektakulär und suche zunächst einmal Sympatisanten. (Wie alles finanziert werden könnte, ist eine ganz andere Frage. Hinweise hierzu werde ich zunächst einmal ignorieren.) > Gerade im Rahmen der Occupy-Bewebung und den enormen Turbulenzen derzeit an den Finanzmärkten bekommt Transparenz eine ganz neue Bedeutung. > > Das Thema ist natürlich exorbitant und könnte ganze Heerscharen an Leute beschäftigen > Aber ist dieses Thema vielleicht mal im Rahmen von Wikipedia diskutiert worden? > Ein anderes Umfeld als Wikipedia scheint mir da zunächst nicht geeignet für. > > Freu mich über eine kurze Stellungnahme von euch. > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen > Tobias Grenzing > > > ------------------------------------------------- >

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Re: [Wikidata-l] [Pywikipedia-l] Wikidata and PWB
by Dr. Trigon 31 Dec '12

31 Dec '12

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Update for pywikibot trunk wikidata interface: Supports the same interface as Page, with the following added methods: setitem : Setting item(s) on a page setclaimvalue : Set the value of a Wikibase claim createclaim : Create Wikibase claims getentity : Getting item(s) of a page getentities : Get the data for multiple Wikibase entities I added the methods: setclaimvalue, createclaim and getentities in order to start including wikidata support to subster.py Some comments on this: 1.) the methods should be renamed in order to refrect the naming from rewrite which is "get_xxx" and "set_xxx". 2.) the class wikidataPage works clearly with items like "Q356" too and not only with titles/lables like "Helium" like suggested multiple times (the "Q" syntax is clearly preferred since unique) 3.) getentities is in fact the same as getentity as far as I understand but I was not able to get it working nor understand it (to elaborated for me... ;) and thus I decided to start another very simple implementation. (sorry!) 4.) setclaimvalue is in fact not dependent on a page but on a guid only and thus could be moved out of the wikidataPage class. Thanks to all the inital work done here by amir and others! Hope we can implement more useful stuff here and coordinate the work in order to get a consistent interface. Thanks and greetings DrTrigon ps.: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Pywikipediabot/Wikidata On 10.12.2012 22:43, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: > Finally the bug is solved. you can get and set items on wikidata > via PWB > > At first you must define a wikidataPage and these are methods you > can use. I'll try to expand and make more methods but i don't know > any and your help will be very useful: Supports the same interface > as Page, with the following added methods: > > setitem : Setting item(s) on a page > > getentity : Getting item(s) of a page > > these examples worked for me: > > site=wikipedia.getSite('wikidata',fam='wikidata') > page=wikipedia.wikidataPage(site,"Helium") text=page.getentity() > page.setitem(summary=u"BOT: TESTING FOO",items={'type':u'item', > 'label':'fa', 'value':'OK'}) page.setitem(summary=u"BOT: TESTING > GOO",items={'type':u'description', 'language':'en', 'value':'OK'}) > page.setitem(summary=u"BOT: TESTING BOO",items={'type':u'sitelink', > 'site':'de', 'title':'BAR'}) > > Cheers! > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlDg0mwACgkQAXWvBxzBrDCCvACfei0RcgokwL/WWN3M3/MmZ851 Kh4AoNT2O/phjnOAM+H2RFjdlQrbtFfd =ETEK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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[Wikidata-l] Wikidata and PWB
by Amir Ladsgroup 31 Dec '12

31 Dec '12

Finally the bug is solved. you can get and set items on wikidata via PWB At first you must define a wikidataPage and these are methods you can use. I'll try to expand and make more methods but i don't know any and your help will be very useful: Supports the same interface as Page, with the following added methods: setitem : Setting item(s) on a page getentity : Getting item(s) of a page these examples worked for me: site=wikipedia.getSite('wikidata',fam='wikidata') page=wikipedia.wikidataPage(site,"Helium") text=page.getentity() page.setitem(summary=u"BOT: TESTING FOO",items={'type':u'item', 'label':'fa', 'value':'OK'}) page.setitem(summary=u"BOT: TESTING GOO",items={'type':u'description', 'language':'en', 'value':'OK'}) page.setitem(summary=u"BOT: TESTING BOO",items={'type':u'sitelink', 'site':'de', 'title':'BAR'}) Cheers! -- Amir

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[Wikidata-l] weekly summary #38
by Lydia Pintscher 29 Dec '12

29 Dec '12

Heya folks :) Here is your Wikidata summary for the last week. It is a rather short one though since pretty much everyone is enjoying some well-deserved vacation time. The wiki version is at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Status_updates/2012_12_28 = Development = * Some of us unwrapped gifts (-: * Started working on supporting different kinds of Snaks in the user interface * Fixing support for PostgreSQL in core, which was broken with introduction of the sites stuff * Code reviewing of changes in MediaWiki core * Adding watchlist filter in client for Wikidata changes = Discussions/Press = * http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Ranking_of_items = Events = see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Events * right now: 29C3 = Open Tasks for You = * Hack on one of https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=need-volunteer%2C%20&ke… Anything to add? Please share! :) Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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[Wikidata-l] Data values
by Denny Vrandečić 23 Dec '12

23 Dec '12

As Phase 2 is progressing, we have to decide on how to represent data values. I have created a draft for representing numbers and units, points in time, and locations, which can be found here: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Representing_values> including a first suggestion on the functionality of the UI which we would be aiming at eventually. The draft is unfortunately far from perfect, and I would very welcome comments and discussion. We probably will implement them in the following order: geolocation, date and time, numbers. Cheers, Denny -- Project director Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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[Wikidata-l] weekly summary #37
by Lydia Pintscher 22 Dec '12

22 Dec '12

Heya folks :) Here's what's been happening around Wikidata over the last week. The wiki version is at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Status_updates/2012_12_21 As you can see it is getting quiet here in the office as everyone is leaving for the holidays. = Development = * Deployed fix for https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42956 on wikidata.org that caused problems when using the site in French in Firefox * Updated demo system http://wikidata-test.wikimedia.de/ * Fixed some bugs in wbsearchentities * Removed empty aliases structure from wbsearchentities * Heavy Selenium testing of statements UI * Improved overall usability and responsiveness of the statements UI * Implemented remove functionality for statements in the UI * Refactored and added tests for language links handler in the client * Bug fixes in the client * Improved SiteLinkTable class in WikibaseLib and added tests * Started work to improve AbuseFIlter integration * Added logic to find all referenced entities for a given set of claims * Added serialization of referenced claims to output of entity pages * Diff Extension: Split off diffing code from MapDiff and ListDiff to dedicated Differ classes * Diff Extension: Added dedicated patcher classes, which are used for the getApplicableDiff functionality See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Current_sprint for what we’re working on next. You can follow our commits at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/(status:open+project:mediawiki/extension… and view the subset awaiting review at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions… You can see all open bugs related to Wikidata at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?emailcc1=1&list_id=151540&resolu… = Discussions/Press = * Representing values http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Representing_values http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-l/2012-December/001406.html (including a prototype to try out the current state of discussions: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikidata-l/2012-December/001491.html) * Wikidata: People And Bots Busy Filling The System In Phase One http://semanticweb.com/wikidata-people-and-bots-busy-filling-the-system-in-… = Events = see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Events * Office hours (logs at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2012-12-18a and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/Office_hours_2012-12-18b) * Wikidata talk as part of a lecture on knowledge management in Karlsruhe * upcoming: 29C3 = Other Noteworthy Stuff = * Announced the expected date for deployment on the Hungarian Wikipedia http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#next_steps_for_the_first… * Wikidata has been added to the Wikimedia stats site: http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikispecial/EN/TablesWikipediaWIKIDATA.htm * Video of the Wikidata talks at Wikimania 2012 is online now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05HxNwxiNZ0 = Open Tasks for You = * Give input to the representing values discussion * Hack on one of https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=need-volunteer%2C%20&ke… Anything to add? Please share! :) Have a great holiday season. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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[Wikidata-l] Wikimania videos of Wikidata sessions
by Katie Filbert 20 Dec '12

20 Dec '12

Finally, we have the rest of the Wikimania videos available, including this one of the Wikidata panel in the "sister projects" session: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi8Yf9c3wXg (starts at 22:45) The other Wikidata session is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05HxNwxiNZ0 Cheers, Katie -- Katie Filbert Wikidata Developer Wikimedia Germany e.V. | NEW: Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Phone (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Germany - Society for the Promotion of free knowledge eV Entered in the register of Amtsgericht Berlin-Charlottenburg under the number 23 855 as recognized as charitable by the Inland Revenue for corporations I Berlin, tax number 27/681/51985.

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[Wikidata-l] next Wikidata office hours
by Lydia Pintscher 18 Dec '12

18 Dec '12

Heya :) On 18 December Denny and I will do the next round of Wikidata office hours. Everyone with questions about Wikidata is welcome. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Events#IRC_office_hours Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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[Wikidata-l] Official launch of Wikivoyage
by James Heilman 16 Dec '12

16 Dec '12

Hey All We are looking at Jan 15, 2013 as an official launch date for Wikivoyage. We are looking at options for both on wiki and off wiki media outreach. There is still work to be done with respect to moving images over from the old site but hopefully things will be good enough. We are a wiki of course which means all are invited to fix any issues they see. -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com

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[Wikidata-l] weekly summary #36
by Lydia Pintscher 15 Dec '12

15 Dec '12

Heya folks :) Here's your summary what happened around Wikidata over the last week. You can find the wiki version at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Status_updates/2012_12_14 = Development = * Deployed new code on wikidata.org. All changes can be found at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FWikibase.g… * Updated demo system http://wikidata-test.wikimedia.de * http://test2.wikipedia.org now uses wikidata.org for getting language links and wikidata.org edits affecting the existing articles on test2 show up in RecentChanges (if they are not hidden) * Statements (think of “population: 2.000.000” and similar things) are taking shape in the interface. They are still pretty buggy though at this point. * It is now possible to link to images on Wikimedia Commons in a statement (think of “image: sundown_at_the_beach.png” for example) * Links are now protocol-relative (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42534) * No longer possible to create new items and set labels when database is set to read-only * Added more tests to the GeoCoordinate parser * Make use of EditEntity in removeclaims API * Removed many singletons to reduce global state * Made SpecialSetLabel work with non-item entities * Improved settings system * Improved options of ValueFormatters * Improved options of ValueParsers * Moved label+description uniqueness check out of transaction to avoid deadlocks and changed it to only be enforced for edits changing any violating values * Fixed serialization of SiteArray * ~=[,,_,,]:3 * Had to fix reporting of aliases in wbsearchentities again * Implemented integration of baserevids for statements UI API calls for editconflict detection for statements/claims/snaks * Universal Language Selector fallback fix for Selenium tests * Report URL to entity in wbsearchentites API module * Moved the demo system to a larger server * Fixed several bugs in Statements user interface, most notably, adding Statements to existing sections and layout fixes * Added wikibase API module on the client to provide information about the associated repo (e.g. url, script path, article path) * A bunch of messages for autocomments were fixed (they are automatically added as an edit summary for edits on items and co in Wikidata - for example: “‎Changed [en] description: Finnish rock band”) See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Current_sprint for what we’re working on next. You can follow our commits at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/(status:open+project:mediawiki/extension… and view the subset awaiting review at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/status:open+project:mediawiki/extensions… You can see all open bugs related to Wikidata at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?emailcc1=1&list_id=151540&resolu… = Discussions/Press = * “Wikidata: Summing the sum of human knowledge“ http://tech2.in.com/features/science-and-technology/wikidata-summing-the-su… = Events = see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Events * WhereCamp * Wikidata talk as part of a lecture on knowledge management in Karlsruhe * upcoming: 29C3 * upcoming: Office hours = Other Noteworthy Stuff = * More pretty Wikidata artwork: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikidata_logo_using_images.png = Open Tasks for You = * Want to help me write the next weekly summary? Let me know. * Hack on one of https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=need-volunteer%2C%20&ke… Anything to add? Please share! :) Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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