Hi all,
I have a question or rather proposal regarding the JSON representation [1].
The "Geo" example on the JSON page[1] implies that there won't be a
fixed representation for data types. Instead of the "value" key that
all the other examples use, the Geo example uses "longitude" and
"latitude". Wouldn't a representation like the following be more
appropriate?
"value": {
"latitude" : 32.233,
"longitude" : -2.233,
}
That is, if "snaktype": "value", then there has to be a "value" key
with a data type specific value object.
Something that imho would also be useful, is a way to specify the data
type - this could be optional. For the Geo example something like the
following would make sense:
"datatype": "geo"
Without such a definition, a consumer would have to derive the data
type from the keys and/or the lexical representation of the values,
which would usually be a tough task.
Cheers,
Andreas
1. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/Phase_2_JSON
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Hi,
Lydia mentioned in her summary a major discussion about Wikidata in
the Hebrew Wikipedia. The discussion was in Hebrew of course, so I'll
bring a little summary of it.
Eleven people supported the installation of Wikidata. Nobody objected \o/
Despite the wide support, some issues and questions were raised:
1. How is the coordination with interwiki links bot operators progressing?
Will the bots be smart enough not to do anything to articles that are
already listed in the repository and have the correct links displayed?
Will the bots be smart enough to update the repo in the transition
period, when some Wikipedias have Wikidata and some don't?
Will the bots be smart enough not to do anything with articles that
have interwiki conflicts (multiple links, non-1-to-1 linking etc.)?
2. What are the numbers after the Q in the titles in the repo site? -
I replied that they are just sequential identifiers without any
additional meaning. Maybe it can be added to the FAQ.
3. Several people complained about instability in the links editing
pages in the repo: They saw messages about network problems when they
tried to edit links. I experienced this a couple of times, too. I also
saw a complete crash with a "memory full" error once.
4. Somebody noticed that the testing sites don't support unified
accounts (CentralAuth). The production system will, right?
5. Somebody complained that it's too easy to remove a link from a repo
- clicking the "remove" link is enough. I mentioned it in a bug
report:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40200
6. And this is probably the biggest issue: The workflow for adding an
interlanguage link is cumbersome and in some cases the interface
elements are undiscoverable.
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I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
Hi there, I got a number of questions. Hope not to bother.
1) Has the testing of phase 1 already started on hu.wp?
2) Will phase 1 be also expanded to ns=/=0 (i.e. templates,
categories, help pages...) and to other projects (i.e. Wikisource,
Wikiquote...)?
3) When will be possible to test phase 2 on Wikidata-test-repo?
4) Is there already a script for testing the automatic upload of
interlinks? I'd like to run some tests with my bot.
Thanks in advance.
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Sumana says i forward this e-mail to wikidata-l. So i did it :)
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 03:18:57 +0330
Subject: Wikidata bug (or semi-bug ;)
To: wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Hello I'm working on running PWB on wikidata and i want to do some
edits via API so i did this:
http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/w/api.php?action=wbsetitem&id=392&da…
but gives me this:
http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/w/index.php?title=Q392&diff=105675&o…
As you can see, the label changed but the change is not shown in "List
of pages linked to this item(79 entries)" section. I think it's
because they are not the same but it's better to be!
and besides does anybody know how can i take page id? i mean i give
"Tantalum" and take "392" or "Q392"
Best wishes
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On 10/18/2012 04:48 PM, Amir Ladsgroup wrote:
> Hello I'm working on running PWB on wikidata and i want to do some
> edits via API so i did this:
> http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/w/api.php?action=wbsetitem&id=392&da…
>
> but gives me this:
> http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/w/index.php?title=Q392&diff=105675&o…
>
> As you can see, the label changed but the change is not shown in "List
> of pages linked to this item(79 entries)" section. I think it's
> because they are not the same but it's better to be!
>
> and besides does anybody know how can i take page id? i mean i give
> "Tantalum" and take "392" or "Q392"
>
> Best wishes
Amir, thanks for the bug report! it would probably be best if you
continued this conversation on the wikidata-l list
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l (cc'd) or in
#wikimedia-wikidata on Freenode IRC.
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Hi!
I have published a draft of how changes on the wikidata repository are going to
percolate to the client wikis:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Percolation
Any feedback would be appreciated!
Of course, we are not starting this from scratch. We are currently implementing
a stripped down, naive version of the draft. Basically, it works like this:
* Each change on the repository is recorded in the changes table.
* On each client wiki, a poll script periodically checks the changes table.
* The polling script maintains a local copy of the latest version of each data
entity on each cluster used by client wikis.
* If any page on the wiki is affected by the change, an entry representing that
change is injected into the client's recentchanges table.
* Wiki pages that are affected by a change are invalidated.
I think this will work for now, that is, for a small number of client wikis. The
new draft is an attempt to make this architecture scale up to several hundred
client wikis on multiple database clusters.
-- daniel
Hey,
The new site functionality needed by Wikibase has finally been merged into
MediaWiki core and been removed from Wikibase itself. This means that if
you update Wikibase to master you will also need to update core to master
and vice versa.
The two relevant commits are:
* https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/23528/
* https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/27726/
Cheers
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Heya folks,
It's time we figure out what the Main Page of Wikidata should look
like. It'd be great if you helped out with this. I've started a page
on Meta here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Main_Page_draft
We'll copy the content of that page to Wikidata once it's live.
Go crazy and make it useful and pretty ;-)
Cheers
Lydia
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