Hi,
Is there a test client system that works with the live wikidata.org? I'd
love to test it as early as possible.
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I thought people on this list would want to read
http://infotrope.net/2012/11/30/importing-data-is-hard/ , a list of
difficulties Alex Bayley (Skud, who used to work on Freebase)
experienced when attempting to reuse open data. Perhaps there are
things Wikidata is already doing to eliminate some of these problems for
our end users. In any case, I thought people here would be interested.
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Hi,
There are several unanswered questions at
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:Glossary . Can any developer
please answer them or just edit the Glossary to make the answers obvious?
Thanks!
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I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
>
> Is there any reason not to have links from wikidata/FooBar to
> en.wiki/FooBar and de.wiki/Foo#Bar? It would be a directed edge, but is
> that a problem?
I think this should not be possible becaus the german article cant link to
3 english articels.
> I think there are a lot of articles especially in the german wikipedia
> where you don't have FooBar but Foo#Bar.
>
> LB
>
But if the tag __STATICREDIRECT__ would be support you cold do a workaround
by linking to the germane redirect de:Foobar therefor see Bug 40755
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=40755 . But i am not shure
if we realy want this kind of linking.
Sk!d
Today a question appeared: what to do if an edit is request that actually
does not change the content (e.g. setting the sitelink of an item to X when
it is already X in the language).
Currently, the API reports an error because the save failed (there is
nothing to save, obviously). If you try the same on MediaWiki core, it
behaves as if everything went well, but doesn't do a save (i.e. the save
does not happen, but the state is the same and thus the software just lets
you proceed as if you have made the edit).
(Actually, the front end is currently too smart to let you do that, but a
similar situation appears when someone else has changed it to the value you
wanted to change it to while you have been viewing the page. Right now we
make a conflict. Is this the desired behavior?)
We should be consistent through all API modules, obviously.
Cheers,
Denny
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Hey,
(Mail mainly directed at Denny)
I am wondering to what extend we want to be able to specify the "data type"
of a property on wiki. Right now one can only provide which DataType to use
(where DataTypes are system defined) and nothing else. Do we also want to
be able to specify things such as a list of allowed values, which
ValueValidators to use, ect? I'm asking since Tpt poked me asking about
doing exactly such a thing, which is written down here:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Tpt/Support_of_external_ids
I have been working under the assumption we do not want this (at least
initially) so there currently is no place to track such per-property info
internally. If we do want to support this any time soon, I'd like to know
now so we can already facilitate it. (By facilitate it I mean holding it
into account when writing new code or modifying existing stuff, not
actually implementing it.)
Cheers
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I suppose Wikidata will be enabled on the Wikipedias when the dependancies of bug 38975 [1] are fixed and the Wikibase Client & Wikibase Lib extensions are installed on the wikipedias.
The dependancies of bug 38975 are bug 38542 [2] and bug 41345 [3]. On bug 38542 db asked if gerrit change 31657 [4] has fixed the problem. At least I can´t repreduce the bug on the demo repo, with the first revision of item Q5786.[5]
[1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38975
[2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38542
[3] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41345
[4] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/31657/
[5] http://wikidata-test-repo.wikimedia.de/w/index.php?title=Q5786&oldid=169681…
----- Original Message -----
From: denny.vrandecic(a)wikimedia.de
Sent: 11/27/12 04:56 PM
To: Discussion list for the Wikidata project.
Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Deadlines - phases #1-3
As said, this is correct with regard to deployment. We will not, though,
halt developing phase 2 until phase 1 is fully deployed. So development of
phase 1 is finished, its deployment is not yet. And we cannot promise or
predict when deployment of phase 1 will be completely finished.
Development of phase 2, in the meanwhile, is continuing.
I hope that clears it up.
Cheers,
Denny
I am afraid that phase #1 should be finished in the moment, when
wikidata-interwiki-data are used by other wikis. And this is not yet.
Now Wikidata are some kind of toy, but when these data are not used
and when (almost all) interwiki bots updates only other wikis but not
the wikidata, phase #1 is not finished.
JAnD
> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 03:57:21 -0600
> From: Alexander Jones <happy5214(a)gmail.com>
>
> Jan Ku?era wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> can we have ONE place where there will be info about current progress and
>> WHEN will be particular phase really launched? I also would like to see
>> reasons why original deadlines were not met... I guess phase #1 was due to
>> about two months ago?
>>
>> Can it be you already are coding phase #2 while #1 still is not launched?
>> What is the reasoning behind this?
>>
>> I dont want to be pain in the ass but I think more people might be
>> interested in clearly watching the project progress without having to dig
>> for info themselves. One is getting confused and demotivated for future
>> volunteering seeing targets are not met without much reasoning (or at
>> least much publicly readable communication).
>>
>> Thx.
>>
>> Jan
>
> Not a developer, so I can't answer about the deadlines, but phase #1 IS
> already live on wikidata.org
>
> Alexander
