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[Wikidata-l] Search question
by James Spencer 19 Apr '13

19 Apr '13

This may be a question that has been asked before, but why not make Google site search more prominent and so the wikidata search can go into beta mode? James On Apr 19, 2013 1:01 PM, <wikidata-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Send Wikidata-l mailing list submissions to > wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wikidata-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikidata-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wikidata-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all in one night! > (Lydia Pintscher) > 2. Re: Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all in one > night! (Dario Taraborelli) > 3. Re: Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all in one > night! (Daniel Kinzler) > 4. Re: Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all in one > night! (Denny Vrandečić) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 23:26:23 +0200 > From: Lydia Pintscher <lydia.pintscher(a)wikimedia.de> > To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." > <wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: [Wikidata-l] Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all in > one night! > Message-ID: > <CABfqUg+8RNHwuB6W+jFNq6_3c5UTO+jgjNM=zRVvX7Y=_ > ieiDg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Heya folks :) > > We have just deployed qualifiers > ( > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Data_model_primer#Qualifiers > ) > and bug fixes on wikidata.org. Qualifiers! Bug fixes are especially > for Internet Explorer 8. Please let me know how it is working for you > now if you're using IE8 and if there are still any major problems when > using Wikidata with it. > > In addition the script we ran on the database to make search > case-insensitive has finished running. This should be another huge > step towards a nice search here. (This change also affects the > autocomplete for items and properties.) > > As usual please let me know what you think and tell me if there are any > issues. > > > Cheers > Lydia > > -- > Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher > Community Communications for Wikidata > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. > Obentrautstr. 72 > 10963 Berlin > www.wikimedia.de > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. > > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg > unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das > Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:48:08 -0700 > From: Dario Taraborelli <dtaraborelli(a)wikimedia.org> > To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." > <wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - > all > in one night! > Message-ID: <063B13DB-AA2F-4660-AA3C-F3F5E4BA2B0D(a)wikimedia.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi Lydia and all, > > great to hear about this deployment, I am particularly excited about > qualifier support (as per my previous post). > > Since you also mention improvements to search, I was wondering whether you > had specific plans for work on search functionality. > Unless I use the Items by title page, if type "Berlin" in a regular > search form the item I am actually looking for (Q64) is ranked #34 in the > search results (i.e. three clicks away on the "more" link). > > I'd be curious to hear the team's thoughts on how to make search more > effective and user friendly. > > Dario > > On Apr 18, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Lydia Pintscher <lydia.pintscher(a)wikimedia.de> > wrote: > > > Heya folks :) > > > > We have just deployed qualifiers > > ( > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Data_model_primer#Qualifiers > ) > > and bug fixes on wikidata.org. Qualifiers! Bug fixes are especially > > for Internet Explorer 8. Please let me know how it is working for you > > now if you're using IE8 and if there are still any major problems when > > using Wikidata with it. > > > > In addition the script we ran on the database to make search > > case-insensitive has finished running. This should be another huge > > step towards a nice search here. (This change also affects the > > autocomplete for items and properties.) > > > > As usual please let me know what you think and tell me if there are any > issues. > > > > > > Cheers > > Lydia > > > > -- > > Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher > > Community Communications for Wikidata > > > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. > > Obentrautstr. 72 > > 10963 Berlin > > www.wikimedia.de > > > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. > > > > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg > > unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das > > Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikidata-l mailing list > > Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 10:14:47 +0200 > From: Daniel Kinzler <daniel.kinzler(a)wikimedia.de> > To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." > <wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all > in one night! > Message-ID: <5170FCF7.3020908(a)wikimedia.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On 19.04.2013 01:48, Dario Taraborelli wrote: > > Since you also mention improvements to search, I was wondering whether > you > > had specific plans for work on search functionality. Unless I use the > Items > > by title page, if type "Berlin" in a regular search form the item I am > > actually looking for (Q64) is ranked #34 in the search results (i.e. > three > > clicks away on the "more" link). > > The "improved search" (read: case-insensitive lookup) applies to > ItemByTitle, > the top-right search box suggestions, and autocompletion when entering item > references. > > The full text search is as broken as ever. There are two reasons for this: > > a) rebuilding the imdex from a dump is simply broken for wikidata. It will > cause > raw JSON to be indexed, with horrible results (see bug 45983). This means > that a > lot of "old" items (that havn't been edited since mid february) are not > indexed > correctly. > > b) even for stuff indexed correctly (because it's indexed by mediawiki > itself), > the search isn't great, because it's optimized for wikitext, relying on > wikilinks etc for ranking. > > I don't see a way to fix this with the current Lucene infrastructure. We > have > been experimenting with Solr, but as far as I know, there is no roadmap for > integrating Wikibase specific Solr search with the MediaWiki search page. > It's > on the list, but there are no concrete plans yet. > > -- daniel > > -- > Daniel Kinzler, Softwarearchitekt > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2013 11:00:24 +0200 > From: Denny Vrandečić <denny.vrandecic(a)wikimedia.de> > To: "Discussion list for the Wikidata project." > <wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - > all > in one night! > Message-ID: > <CANnnRRtHORvVRQ7v7w-nXj= > 6b2u6X_AggtNc_YO39C9YRs9s6Q(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hey Dario, > > there is on simple fix we want to apply rather sooner than later, which is > to use the number of language links for ranking. This should work rather > well. The thing is that this is kinda hard to implement in MySQL, I > figured, and that we would need to use something Lucene based (probably > Solr) for that. The Solr extension is quite far, but we currently are not > working on getting it deployed. In short, it's all in the pipes, and it > just takes a bit... > > Cheers, > Denny > > > > > 2013/4/19 Dario Taraborelli <dtaraborelli(a)wikimedia.org> > > > Hi Lydia and all, > > > > great to hear about this deployment, I am particularly excited about > > qualifier support (as per my previous post). > > > > Since you also mention improvements to search, I was wondering whether > you > > had specific plans for work on search functionality. > > Unless I use the Items by title page, if type "Berlin" in a regular > > search form the item I am actually looking for (Q64) is ranked #34 in the > > search results (i.e. three clicks away on the "more" link). > > > > I'd be curious to hear the team's thoughts on how to make search more > > effective and user friendly. > > > > Dario > > > > On Apr 18, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Lydia Pintscher < > lydia.pintscher(a)wikimedia.de> > > wrote: > > > > > Heya folks :) > > > > > > We have just deployed qualifiers > > > ( > > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Data_model_primer#Qualifiers > > ) > > > and bug fixes on wikidata.org. Qualifiers! Bug fixes are especially > > > for Internet Explorer 8. Please let me know how it is working for you > > > now if you're using IE8 and if there are still any major problems when > > > using Wikidata with it. > > > > > > In addition the script we ran on the database to make search > > > case-insensitive has finished running. This should be another huge > > > step towards a nice search here. (This change also affects the > > > autocomplete for items and properties.) > > > > > > As usual please let me know what you think and tell me if there are any > > issues. > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > Lydia > > > > > > -- > > > Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher > > > Community Communications for Wikidata > > > > > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. > > > Obentrautstr. 72 > > > 10963 Berlin > > > www.wikimedia.de > > > > > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. > > > > > > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg > > > unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das > > > Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikidata-l mailing list > > > Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikidata-l mailing list > > Wikidata-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-l > > > > > > -- > Project director Wikidata > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin > Tel. +49-30-219 158 26-0 | http://wikimedia.de > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter > der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für > Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. >

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[Wikidata-l] Qualifiers, bug fixes, improved search - all in one night!
by Lydia Pintscher 19 Apr '13

19 Apr '13

Heya folks :) We have just deployed qualifiers (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Data_model_primer#Qualifiers) and bug fixes on wikidata.org. Qualifiers! Bug fixes are especially for Internet Explorer 8. Please let me know how it is working for you now if you're using IE8 and if there are still any major problems when using Wikidata with it. In addition the script we ran on the database to make search case-insensitive has finished running. This should be another huge step towards a nice search here. (This change also affects the autocomplete for items and properties.) As usual please let me know what you think and tell me if there are any issues. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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[Wikidata-l] Regarding wikidata inclusion syntax
by chinmay naik 17 Apr '13

17 Apr '13

Hi, I am Chinmay Naik, an undergrad in CS at Bangalore,India. I hope to contribute to CrowsourcingBiology through GSOC 2013. The project i am interested is "convert bot to write to wikidata". Currently the bot does this database ---> wikipedia. The proposal is this database ----> wikidata -----> wikipedia. I have the basic idea of how to capture gene info onto wikidata. I was wondering about the inclusion syntax of wikidata. I had a look at the current inclusion of wikidata v0.3 meta. Some things are unclear to me. How best it is to map wikidata items on to wiki articles.?? Currently, the bot uses templates. The template structure is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:GNF_Protein_box. The bot fills a various gene templates http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:PBB/100. These gene templates are included on gene wikipedia articles. I tried to work out on the italian wikipedia. When i try to include a template(mapped to wikidata item) onto an wiki article, the wikidata properties were not displayed. So is it not possible to include wikidata items in template namespace?? So transclusion where data is retreived from wikidata item not supported?? Kindly pardon me if this is not the right mailing list to post to about this. Thanks in advance, Chinmay

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[Wikidata-l] Browsing Wikipedia categories by popularity
by Michael Hale 15 Apr '13

15 Apr '13

I made a quick demo of browsing Wikipedia categories by popularity. The video is here (sorry about the audio quality): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3QXwY-XR28The source code is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wakebrdkid/Popular_category_browsing If other people like having an option to sort categories that way then article traffic might be a good property to store on Wikidata.

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[Wikidata-l] weekly summary #53
by Lydia Pintscher 14 Apr '13

14 Apr '13

Heya folks :) Here's what happened around Wikidata this week. The wiki version is at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Status_updates/2013_04_12 = Development = * Got some external professional review of our code and architecture and started working on their feedback * Worked on reducing the dispatch lag (the time it takes for changes on Wikidata to be sent to the Wikipedias for display in watchlist, recent changes and to purge affected pages - http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:DispatchStats) * Worked on using Redis for job queue to improve the lag situation even further * Created new Wikibase Query extension for phase 3 functionality * Autocomments & Autosummaries for SetClaim module * Worked on the GeoCoordinate parser You can view the commits currently in review at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/%28+project:mediawiki/extensions/Wikibas… and the ones that have been merged at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/%28+project:mediawiki/extensions/Wikibas… You can see all open bugs related to Wikidata at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?emailcc1=1&list_id=151540&resolu… = Events/Press = * see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Events * right now: GLAM-WIKI 2013 = Discussion = * The RFC about bureaucrats was closed: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Defining_bureauc… * RfC about policy for translation admins: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Adopt_metawiki_p… * We need feedback from contributors working on references addition or having tried to add references to statements. Please comment about your problems or your trials at http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Sources = Other Noteworthy Stuff = * Deployment of phase 2 on the remaining Wikipedias was delayed because of a high lag of changes being propagated to the Wikipedias. The lag has been reduced considerably now and is going down even more. The new date for deployment will not be next week because there are other large changes on Wikimedia infrastructure scheduled that we do not want to interfere with. It will hopefully happen very soon after that though. * Next code update on wikidata.org is planned for Wednesday. This should include qualifiers (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Notes/Data_model_primer#Qualifiers) and bugfixes. * There will probably be a short outage/read-only for wikidata.org on Tuesday (database is being switched to MariaDB) * If you're a student and interested in coding on Wikidata consider applying for Google Summer of Code: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:GSoC * There is a new user right: property creators (http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_creators) * There is now a page to request deletion of a property: http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Properties_for_deletion * We now have [[Wikidata:Bureaucrats|Bureaucrats]] * Reasonator was improved and extended (http://toolserver.org/~magnus/ts2/reasonator/?q=92642 http://toolserver.org/~magnus/ts2/reasonator/?q=4504 = Open Tasks for You = * Hack on one of https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=need-volunteer%2C%20&ke… * Help draft the next weekly summary at http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Status_updates/Next Anything to add? Please share! :) Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Community Communications for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Obentrautstr. 72 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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[Wikidata-l] DBpedia+Spotlight accepted @ Google Summer of Code 2013
by Dimitris Kontokostas 10 Apr '13

10 Apr '13

[Apologies for cross-posting] Dear fellow DBpedians, I am very excited to announce that DBpedia and DBpedia Spotlight have again been been selected for the Google Summer of Code 2013!!! If you know energetic students (BSc,MSc,PhD) interested in working with DBpedia, text processing, and semantics, please encourage them to apply! More details can also be found on the blog post here: http://blog.dbpedia.org/2013/04/10/dbpediaspotlight-accepted-google-summer-… On behalf of the DBpedia GSoC team, Dimitris Kontokostas -- Dimitris Kontokostas Department of Computer Science, University of Leipzig Research Group: http://aksw.org Homepage:http://aksw.org/DimitrisKontokostas <http://aksw.org/DimitrisKontokostas>

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[Wikidata-l] DBpedia+Spotlight accepted @ Google Summer of Code 2013
by Dimitris Kontokostas 10 Apr '13

10 Apr '13

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[Wikidata-l] Page history and properties
by Bináris 10 Apr '13

10 Apr '13

A good question from huwiki: When I click on an earlier version of the page in the history, will the "then-value" of the property be shown or the current value? If I read the 2013 version of [[United States of America]] in 2018, will Obama be the president? -- Bináris

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[Wikidata-l] Link to gerrit not working (Re: weekly summary #52)
by Innovimax SARL 08 Apr '13

08 Apr '13

Hi all, On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:43 AM, Lydia Pintscher <lydia.pintscher(a)wikimedia.de> wrote: > You can follow our commits at > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/(status:open+project:mediawiki/extension… I never succeed in making this link work. Am I the only one? Thanks Mohamed -- Innovimax SARL Consulting, Training & XML Development 9, impasse des Orteaux 75020 Paris Tel : +33 9 52 475787 Fax : +33 1 4356 1746 http://www.innovimax.fr RCS Paris 488.018.631 SARL au capital de 10.000 €

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[Wikidata-l] Interlanguage-link-bug?
by Marco Fleckinger 07 Apr '13

07 Apr '13

Hello, regarding to the actual discussion of this French Radio Transmission station, I looked up the article on WP. On enwiki it says that there is only a French article ([1]) regarding this topic, but Wikidata ([2]) shows a German one as well, which is also shown on frwiki. So, is this a bug or will it simply take a while, until the page will be rerendered on the squid? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_radio_station_of_Pierre-sur-Haute [2] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q10369016 Cheers, Marco

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