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[Wikidata-l] Wikidata / Wikipedia integration : redlinks and items
by Thomas Douillard 15 Sep '14

15 Sep '14

Hi all, I'm wondering about one usage Wikidata could be useful to Wikipedias : Redlinks subject identification. Wikidata is good to identify subjects. Redlinks are used in Wikipedias to identify subjects with currently no article. I post here because I think there is something to integrate this further, but I don't know exactly what. A quick review about the current mechanisms we have to link items and/or articles and subjects together : * Wikidata interwikis. This works well. Links an item to articles and articles titles * articles redirect. This also works well, now we have a mechanism to link article redirects with items, which is cool. * There is currently templates like https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6519884 or https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q15977575 Interesting mechanisms actually * Wikidata items aliases : links a set of lexemes to an item * Special:ItemByTitle and Special:GoToLinkedPage which are great, I don't know how much they are used in practice though A little bit different but close * items redirects This seems this covers a lot of the user usecases. Yet there is a lot of red links in Wikipedia with actually no links to a Wikidata item. My feeling is that what actually lacks in this picture is that the templates are a bit hackish and that a deeper integration of item numbers with redlinks would allow to go further and encourage users to make the links at an earlier stage. What about a Wikisyntax to put an item number into a Wikilink or a visual editor integration to suggest an entity every time a user wants to enter a redlink ? This seems a low hanging fruit for WIkidata development and could make Wikidata more real to Wikipedia communities. Especially compared to doing this at the community level where this would require a big maintenance effort and community knowledge about the templates to make the link beetween the red label and the corresponding item concrete, especially if visual editor make the information come to eveyone. One other solution could be to allow to associate items to yet non existing articles to "reserve" them, allow redlinks into the Wikidata interwiki list ?

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[Wikidata-l] breaking changes for gadgets
by Lydia Pintscher 15 Sep '14

15 Sep '14

Hey folks, We are working on re-vamping a lot of the underlying code for the user interface at the moment. These changes are the first major steps for the new user interface. They are necessary to allow editing all sitelinks or label/description/alsiases at once for example. Unfortunately some gadgets will need to be adapted to these changes. Specifically it is the introduction of sitelinkview and aliasview. We are aware of the following gadgets that will need to be adapted but those might not be all: MediaWiki:Gadget-DraggableSitelinks.js MediaWiki:Gadget-KeyShortcuts.js MediaWiki:Gadget-MainLangFirst.js MediaWiki:Gadget-Move.js MediaWiki:Gadget-Preview.js MediaWiki:Gadget-SimpleTransliterate.js The new code is live on test.wikidata.org for you to test your gadgets against. The changes will go live on wikidata.org on Tuesday. Sorry for the breaking change. I hope the new UI will be worth it for you though :) Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher - http://about.me/lydia.pintscher Product Manager for Wikidata Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 10963 Berlin www.wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e. V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 Nz. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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[Wikidata-l] integration of VisualEditor and Wikidata
by Amir E. Aharoni 14 Sep '14

14 Sep '14

Hi, There are plenty of ways in which Wikidata and VisualEditor could be integrated. Let me ask about the following one: Given: Let's imagine that the venerable {{Infobox settlement}} template is fully adapted for pulling the data from Wikidata. All the relevant data about the city of Bratislava is entered into its item page on wikidata.org, and in the source of the article [[Bratislava]] you only need to say {{Infobox settlement}} without any parameters. The people of Bratislava elect a new mayor, and I want to write it in the article. I come to the article [[Bratislava]] and press edit. I click the infobox. What happens? As far as I know, no work has been done in this area; PLEASE CORRECT ME if I'm wrong. My Super-Dream scenario is to be able to edit the Mayor's name write there in the infobox, but I realize that it might be complicated. My Dream scenario is that the VE understands that the data is pulled from Wikidata and shows a dialog that is similar to the current template parameters. I see the old mayor's name in that dialog, I write the new mayor's name, and the new value is stored in Wikidata. Of course, it must be taken into account that the name is likely not just a string, but a label of the Wikidata item. My acceptable-but-suboptimal scenario is taking the user to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6850543 . This is probably a useful workflow for the tech-savvy editors, but it's suboptimal for a casual editor. I'll go as far as saying that for a casual editor it may be (relatively) more comfortable to edit parameters in a MediaWiki template ("|mayor =[[Milan Ftáčnik]]") than to go to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6850543 and find the value. Does anybody have any more ideas about it? Am I late to the party and this has already been discussed and designed and I missed it? Please enlighten me :) Thanks! -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

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[Wikidata-l] Weekly Summary #125
by John Lewis 14 Sep '14

14 Sep '14

Hello everyone, Here is the latest weekly summary covering all the Wikidata things over the past two weeks! https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Status_updates/2014_09_13 Apologies from Lydia and myself about not producing one last week :) John Lewis

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[Wikidata-l] Making a Wikipedia article link to two wikidata items
by Edward Betts 14 Sep '14

14 Sep '14

The Wikipedia article about Wangerooge describes an island and municipality. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wangerooge These two concepts, island and municipality, have discrete items. Municipality: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q25135 Island: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17081143 I would like Q17081143 to point to the Wangerooge Wikipedia article, but adding the link gives this error: > The link enwiki:Wangerooge is already used by item Q25135. You may remove it > from Q25135 if it does not belong there or merge the items if they are about > the exact same topic. How can we fix this? -- Edward.

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Re: [Wikidata-l] policy toward using non-CC0 licensed external databases a
by Denny Vrandečić 13 Sep '14

13 Sep '14

On Sep 13, 2014 3:20 PM, "P. Blissenbach" <publi(a)web.de> wrote: > > Regarding purely factual data comprising a less than significant portion of a > database - which is certainly true for all ISBNs in Googles databas > Btw. if a statement about an ISBN is sourced, among ohers, with "Source: Google", > that does not imply having it from Google. It only states the fact: "Google has > it, too." > > Purodha That's also why it is actually called "reference" and not "source".

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[Wikidata-l] Wikimedian in Residence at the Royal Society of Chemistry
by Andy Mabbett 12 Sep '14

12 Sep '14

I have some news: http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/wikimedian-residence-royal-society-chemistry/ I'll set up on-wiki pages in a couple of weeks. [BCC to several mailing lists; please set replies accordingly] -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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[Wikidata-l] Dates (years) in "other" calendars
by Ole Palnatoke Andersen 11 Sep '14

11 Sep '14

Hi! I'm stuck in the Wikidata Game, because https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%B4%D8%AF_%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D… does contain birth and death years in the Persian calendar, but https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5717561 will only accept Gregorian or Julian dates. I assume I will have to say "Not sure" in the game :-) Regards, Ole Palnatoke Andersen [[User:Palnatoke]] -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588

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[Wikidata-l] Weird graphical problem
by Derric Atzrott 10 Sep '14

10 Sep '14

Is this just affecting me, or is this something that I ought to report on Bugzilla? https://i.imgur.com/zzdGNYs.png The search bar on Wikidata appears to not actually be where it appears but just below that. Took me a few minutes to realize that is where it ended up. Looks around using Firebug I can't see a good reason it would appear there, making me think maybe it's just an issue with some addon I have in Firefox 32.0. Its persistent between pages. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology

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[Wikidata-l] Fwd: congratulations
by Gerard Meijssen 10 Sep '14

10 Sep '14

Hoi, The latest statistics show that we may finally say that "only 50% of our items have zero, one or two statements". No longer can we say more that 50% of our items have zero or one statement. THAT is in my opinion a great indication of our progress of bringing data to Wikidata. As a consequence we become more information and useful. It is important to know that the first statements are in many ways the most difficult but also the most important. They often include the instances of or subclasses. Congratulations !!! Thanks, GerardM

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