Hello there. I have been an active and vocal supporter of Wikidata since
almost the day it went live, and after giving Phase II a legitimate chance,
I have to say that in my opinion the decision to deploy Phase II with only
a small number of the expected features has been a massive mistake. Yes, I
understand that the project was losing momentum and that several people
commented that they felt that there was nothing to do on the project before
Phase II hit, however the partial release has caused considerable
confusion, and worse, has caused people to make decisions *based on what is
available now* as opposed to based on *what would be the best choice in the
long term*.
It would have been one thing if Phase II were released with 80% of its
projected features and an official list from the developers of the things
that were left out. Instead we got what I have to guess is around 10% of
the projected features, and if there's an official list of things that are
missing or a timeline of when they're going to appear, I haven't seen it.
I also have to question the timing of the release, bringing Phase II live
just before Wikidata hits English Wikipedia. Was this done on purpose to
try and bring over some of the Wikipedia editors? If not, the timing is
awful. Nothing of this scale and level of technical sophistication ever
gets deployed to English Wikipedia smoothly, and I think that the near
future is going to show that the English Wikipedia deployment is going to
be competing with the Phase II rollout for the time of the coders, who will
need to fix bugs in both areas.
I'm sorry for being so pessimistic, but I really do feel let down by this
release. It's like being told that you're going to watch a feature film and
then only getting the official trailer. The trailer is good, but it's not
what people were expecting and it's not particularly valuable on its own.
I look forward to any response that the Wikidata staff or the community
might have to this.
Sven
Heya folks :)
Sorry I completely forgot to also send an email here yesterday night.
The first parts of phase 2 are now live on wikidata.org. More details
are in this blog post:
http://blog.wikimedia.de/2013/02/04/first-parts-of-phase-2-of-wikidata-goin…
Cheers
Lydia
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I think the wikidata Item entry for Japan is corrupted. I cannot remove the
extra language no matter what. I think the file is somehow corrupted for
this page.
http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17
Hello,
My colleague Yves Raimond and myself were just having a quick chat about
the Wikidata RDF serialisation plans.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/RDF
While the reification makes sense, we thought that it looked a bit too
much like rdf:Statement.
w:Berlin s:Population Berlin:Statement1 .
Berlin:Statement1 rdf:type o:Statement .
Perhaps you could rename o:Statement to o:Fact instead?
nick.
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Diederek van Liere over on the analytics list [1] let me know that
webstatscollector was updated to start collecting wikidata stats as of
Feb 1st UTC 0:00. Yay.
I took a look, and I was a bit confused by the language prefixes, for example:
de.wd Wikidata:Hauptseite 14 369565
de.wd Wikidata:Introduction/de 1 48357
de.wd Wikidata:Labels_and_descriptions_task_force/de 1 39804
de.wd Wikidata:Translation_administrators/ca 1 11902
dsb.wd Q54919 1 12281
dsb.wd Special:SetLabel/q54919/en 1 8888
dsb.wd Special:WhatLinksHere/Q54919 1 9607
el.wd File:Wikidata_item_creation_progress.png 1 13545
el.wd Wikidata:Community_portal 1 11816
en.wd Q123801 1 10801
en.wd Q123803 1 10908
en.wd Q123843 1 10872
en.wd Q124027 1 11312
en.wd Q124345 1 11156
en.wd Q14217 1 11485
Does that make sense to anyone? I thought there was just
www.wikidata.org? If it doesn't make sense let me know and I will
follow up with Diederek.
//Ed
[1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/analytics/2013-February/000388.html