Some time in the last few months (possibly at Wikimania) someone pointed me at some research about predicting the outcome of Wikipedia consensus building from the language they were using in Talk. I think it was either research in progress or recently completed.
As I recall, the main "take home" message was that discussions where "you" started to be used tended to end up in conflict and that discussions that avoided "you" were more likely to resolve amicably.
If this rings any bells for you, can you please point me at it please.
Thanks
Kerry
Kerry Raymond, 16/09/2018 12:27:
Some time in the last few months (possibly at Wikimania) someone pointed me at some research about predicting the outcome of Wikipedia consensus building from the language they were using in Talk.
Maybe these? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter/2012/January#Admins_influence_the_language_of_non-admins https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter/2016/May#A_new_algorithmic_tool_for_analyzing_rationales_on_articles_for_deletion
This one interested me the most (Centre Stage: How Social Network Position Shapes Linguistic Coordination, by Bill Noble and Raquel Fernández): https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Newsletter/2015/May#Talking_like_an_admin:_linguistic_mimicry_and_network_centrality_on_Wikipedia
It shows how one gains influence in the English Wikipedia by adopting the dominant language and language style. I onserve similar patterns in other language editions, it would be great to repeat the study on other Wikipedias.
Federico
Maybe it was this research ? https://blog.wikimedia.org/201 8/06/13/conversations-gone-awry/
Or perhaps you were recalling the talk page research summarized in this year's "State of Wikimedia Research" https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Program/State_of_Wikimedia_Research_2017-2018 Wikimania presentation? https://mako.cc/talks/201807-wikimania_research.pdf
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 2:27 AM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raymond@gmail.com wrote:
Some time in the last few months (possibly at Wikimania) someone pointed me at some research about predicting the outcome of Wikipedia consensus building from the language they were using in Talk. I think it was either research in progress or recently completed.
As I recall, the main "take home" message was that discussions where "you" started to be used tended to end up in conflict and that discussions that avoided "you" were more likely to resolve amicably.
If this rings any bells for you, can you please point me at it please.
Thanks
Kerry
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Kerry,
Here are a couple recent pieces on predicting conversation outcomes, that I'm aware of.
1. https://arxiv.org/pdf/1805.05345.pdf 2. http://www.aclweb.org/anthology/I17-1103
There's another recent one about predicting whether RFCs will be closed, that Chris Schilling worked on with some folks from MIT. That's been accepted to a conference, but not officially published yet--so I don't *think* Mako would have mentioned it at Wikimania?
Hope that helps, J
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 10:44 AM, Tilman Bayer tbayer@wikimedia.org wrote:
Maybe it was this research ? https://blog.wikimedia.org/201 8/06/13/conversations-gone-awry/
Or perhaps you were recalling the talk page research summarized in this year's "State of Wikimedia Research" https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Program/ State_of_Wikimedia_Research_2017-2018 Wikimania presentation? https://mako.cc/talks/201807- wikimania_research.pdf
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 2:27 AM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raymond@gmail.com wrote:
Some time in the last few months (possibly at Wikimania) someone pointed
me
at some research about predicting the outcome of Wikipedia consensus building from the language they were using in Talk. I think it was either research in progress or recently completed.
As I recall, the main "take home" message was that discussions where
"you"
started to be used tended to end up in conflict and that discussions that avoided "you" were more likely to resolve amicably.
If this rings any bells for you, can you please point me at it please.
Thanks
Kerry
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Thank you, that was the one I was looking for!
Thank you too to the other suggestions that people have sent me. While they weren’t exactly what I was looking for, they were all interesting reading nonetheless.
Kerry
From: Tilman Bayer [mailto:tbayer@wikimedia.org] Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2018 3:44 AM To: kerry.raymond@gmail.com; Research into Wikimedia content and communities wiki-research-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] where did I read about predicting user conflicts?
Maybe it was this research ? https://blog.wikimedia.org/2018/06/13/conversations-gone-awry/
Or perhaps you were recalling the talk page research summarized in this year's https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Program/State_of_Wikimedia_Research_2017-2018 "State of Wikimedia Research" Wikimania presentation? https://mako.cc/talks/201807-wikimania_research.pdf
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 2:27 AM, Kerry Raymond <kerry.raymond@gmail.com mailto:kerry.raymond@gmail.com > wrote:
Some time in the last few months (possibly at Wikimania) someone pointed me at some research about predicting the outcome of Wikipedia consensus building from the language they were using in Talk. I think it was either research in progress or recently completed.
As I recall, the main "take home" message was that discussions where "you" started to be used tended to end up in conflict and that discussions that avoided "you" were more likely to resolve amicably.
If this rings any bells for you, can you please point me at it please.
Thanks
Kerry
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